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Artnautalast week

A system where you can indicate the elo range you want to match with is ideal: you can decide yourself whether you want a small elo gap or quick matches.
(I will keep saying this)

mayalast week

i mean only up to a certain extent.

mayalast week

even if the top player is putting themselves and no one else at risk by queueing people hundreds and hundreds of elo below them, they will still feel like shit to queue a top player and get stomped when they wanted a fair match. it is borderline impossible for me to agree with an implementation like this unless it was done REALLY strictly.

Artnautalast week(edited)

If the lower rated player wanted a fair match they shouldn't have extended their queing range to include the top player

Artnautalast week

Both players need to have a big range for a big elo gap match to happen, not just one

Artnautalast week(edited)

Not 100% sure what you mean with strictness?

mayalast week

just heavily limiting how much you can extend your queue range, in either direction (higher or lower)

mayalast week

i do not think it makes sense to facilitate matches where there is a huge skill disparity, because it inherently nullifies the necessity of quick play, and frankly if you wanted to play a quick match against anyone of basically any elo instead of playing a relatively equal, close match (which is what i personally want out of any ranked play experience in any game), why not just queue quick play instead when you stand to gain literally 0 elo from queueing someone much lower in ranked.

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mayalast week

just my two cents, at least.

Artnautalast week(edited)

People will still care about their elo and adjust their ranges accordingly. Only players who use the feature will experience its effects.
You play qp for quicker, easier, ratingless matches. Allowing larger ranges in compet doesn't mean it's suddenly unranked too..

Artnautalast week(edited)

I agree that it doesn't make sense to have matches with 0 elo gain, the range should be limited to not allow that. Which would be a max ~400 elo gap? Not sure with the new rating system

mayalast week

ok we have functionally the same opinion then, lmao.

mayalast week

i think even still, qp fills the theoretical void that this functionality would attempt to fill, since, as you said, they are quicker and easier matches, and i would argue myself that they are also functionally ratingless if you are only gaining like 1 to 5 elo, for example. if anything it just adds the extra stakes of losing WAY more elo than you normally would.

Artnautalast week

when I say quicker & easier I mean also the gameplay not just the queing

mayalast week

oh? interesting.

Artnautalast week

and I don't really understand what you mean when you call something with stakes and with elo "functionally ratingless"

mayalast week

ah i guess you mean qp.

mayalast week

i mean mostly in terms of gains, tbh.

mayalast week

i do not see what incentives a higher ranked player to Intentionally queue substantially lower than their elo range at high cost and very low reward.

mayalast week

when qp exists.

Artnautalast week

just bad return on investment ok

Artnautalast week

Hooray we agree :)

mayalast week

yippee!!!!

mayalast week

i think the concept is interesting, regardless, and as long as the possible range is not literally unlimited, i don't inherently disagree with the idea from a fundamental standpoint!

mayalast week

but it is kind of different to the subject of this thread, so i will personally stop talking about this here x).

new queue matchmaking is terrible high on the leaderboard