Trail Ruins

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SparkFire_49 messagesstarted Aug 17, 2026, 10:22 AM

SparkFire_OPlast month(edited)

Ways trail ruins could be useful (only naturally spawning blocks):
Glazed/Normal Terracotta (https://discord.com/channels/1493030345048719483/1525948328741834824)
Pottery Sherd (Obtain Pottery Sherd)
Suspicious Gravel (Brush Suspicious Block/Obtain Suspicious Block)
Composter (7 Workstations/Fill Composter/Compost X Unique)
Cartography Table (7 Workstations)
Blast Furnace (3 Furnaces/7 Workstations)
Grindstone (Use Grindstone/7 Workstations)
Cauldron (Wash Item in Cauldron/7 Workstations)
Loom (Design Banner with Loom/7 Workstations)
Smithing Table (Use Smithing Table/7 Workstations)
Campfire (Fill Campfire with 4 Food Items)
Damaged Anvil (Use Anvil, Die by Falling Anvil, jeb_ Sheep, dinnerbone Ghast)
Mud Brick Wall (Obtain Mud Brick Wall) [Mud, Packed Mud, and Mud Bricks spawn too]
Brick Wall (Obtain Brick Wall) [Bricks spawn too]
Stone Bricks (Obtain Mossy Stone Brick Wall)
Coarse Dirt (Obtain 64 Coarse Dirt) [Gravel/Dirt spawn too]
Furnace/Crafting Table (Extras can be useful)
Ladder (Get on Nether Roof)
Iron Bars (speed up zombie villager curing time)
Block of Coal (https://discord.com/channels/1493030345048719483/1533677494085881977)

Ways that trail ruins could be useful (only common suspicious gravel):
[Brown, Green, Purple, Red] Candles - (Any) 8/45 (Light Candle)
[Blue, Light Blue, Orange, White, Yellow] Dyes
[Spruce, Oak] Hanging Signs - (Any) 2/45 (Place Hanging Sign)
(Specific) 2/45 (Only real useful ones are Blue/Light Blue if theres no Plains/Swamp)
Beetroot Seeds 1/45 (All Soups/4 Seeds)
Coal 1/45 (Free fuel?)
Dead Bush 1/45 (Obtain Dead Bush/Fill Flower Pot)
Flower Pot 1/45 (Fill Flower Pot
Lead 1/45 (Lead x Unique Mobs)
String 1/45 (Craft Material)
Gold Nugget 1/45 (Nametag Craft)
I’m lowk grasping at straws with alot of these..

SparkFire_OPlast month(edited)

(Initial message here was about how I posted this thread too early on accident)
Ways that trail ruins could be useful (only rare suspicious gravel):
[Relic] Music Disc 1/12 (Duplicate Allay/Play Music Disk in Jukebox)
[7] Pottery Sherds - (Any) 7/12 (Obtain Pottery Sherd)
[4] Armor Trims - (Any) 4/12 | (Specific) 1/12 (Use Smithing Table/Obtain 2 Unique Armor Trims) (very good for this goal as there are 4 unique and they are fairly common)

They spawn in Jungles, Old Growth Birch Forest, Old Growth Pine Taiga, Old Growth Spruce Taiga, Snowy Taiga, and Taiga biomes.

The structure is usually entirely underground with only the top of the tower sticking out - this central tower always connects to a a main road (which consists of cobble, stone, and stone bricks at its base) and along this road there are always 2 buildings and sometimes some smaller buildings/decor. You can find all of the various structure files on the mc wiki!

How the suspicious gravel blocks are generated: https://discord.com/channels/1493030345048719483/1538855608403632128/1538916764711125092

Pythorialast month

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SparkFire_OPlast month

Discord mobile is the bane of my existence

SparkFire_OPlast month

It didnt save like 1k words I typed

SparkFire_OPlast month

t-t

Fox4 🦊last month

We are all digging down on trail ruins to get a composter

SparkFire_OPlast month

I felt like I should include it anyways ok

Duckylast month

I have looked into trail ruin generation before. The loot inside a suspicious sand/gravel block depends on the block's position in the world

Duckylast month

The location of the suspicious gravel blocks is random for each trail ruin, so there is no way to learn exactly where the good ones are

Duckylast month

Trail ruins have different sections, and each section has up to 3 suspicious gravel with "rare" loot table and the rest use the "common" loot table. Which one are rare and which are common is random too

Duckylast month

So it can be a useful strat to leave a section once you get all the rare loot in it, if you are looking for music discs, sherds, or armour trims

Fox4 🦊last month

I think the center paths have no "rare" suspicious gravel spawn

Duckylast month

All the sections and loot tables are in the wiki page
https://minecraft.wiki/w/Trail_Ruins

Trail Ruins

Trail ruins are buried structures that work as archaeological sites where suspicious gravel generates. They are found in heavily forested biomes and resemble ruined villages from a lost culture.

Duckylast month

the tower top pieces and the road pieces have no "rare" suspicious gravel, you are right

Duckylast month

you can also get useful things from the "common" loot table, like candles for light a candle, beetroot seeds for beetroot soup, and leads

Duckylast month

that's everything I know about trail ruins

SparkFire_OPlast month(edited)

Oh thats really interesting actually!

SparkFire_OPlast month

Suspicious blocks generated at the same coordinates with the same loot table will always give the same item across worlds then right?

Duckylast month

They should but it’s still random if the suspicious block is picking from the rare loot table or the common loot table

Duckylast month

Yes

SparkFire_OPlast month

Yeah was accounting for that with the “with the same loot table”

Duckylast month

Theoretically you could memorize block positions that give specific items, but that is so much information that would be useful so rarely

SparkFire_OPlast month

Yeah idt its feasible at all

SparkFire_OPlast month

Just fun tidbit

SparkFire_OPlast month(edited)

Also looks like there are 3 different processor lists that are used to replace gravel with dirt/both suspicious gravel types and the one thats chosen depends on the structure piece

Duckylast month

Wait you could use trail ruins for 64 coarse dirt. That’s really funny

SparkFire_OPlast month(edited)

Same with the tower_top and all of the road structure pieces - they all spawn with 2 normal suspicious gravel.

SparkFire_OPlast month

I looked into it more and the process for suspicious gravel generation actually works like this; First depending on the structure piece it chooses 1 of 3 processor lists, then no matter which one is chosen, it replaces 20% of the gravel with dirt, then 10% of the remaining gravel with coarse dirt, then 10% of the remaining gravel with normal suspicious gravel, and finally 10% of the remaining gravel with rare suspicious gravel (so the processor lists impact is effectively only on where the blocks spawn). The entire process mentioned above only doesn’t apply for the tower_top structure piece, where instead it just replaces 2 gravel with 2 normal suspicious gravel. Something to note is that when the initial process I mentioned happens the amount of normal/rare suspicious gravel is capped - 2 normal and 0 rare for all road structure pieces and 6 normal and 3 rare for all other structure pieces (except tower_top ofc).

SparkFire_OPlast month

The initial process that I mentioned also sometimes results in structure pieces sometimes having less than the cap of suspicious gravel - which is much more prevalent in smaller structures such as alot of the decor sub structures

SparkFire_OPlast month

I just did a whole lot of yapping

Duckylast month

It’s good yapping

Duckylast month

From experience the smaller pieces are way more dense when it comes to amount of suspicious gravel

Duckylast month

So those are probably the most efficient to target if you want the rare loot table since you will have to dig the least blocks to excavate them

SparkFire_OPlast month(edited)

It might be worth to memorize the structure piece that has the damaged anvil

SparkFire_OPlast month(edited)

Could also be worth for the other workstations but much less so

SparkFire_OPlast month(edited)

Probably the only other blocks realistically viable are the ones for Mud Brick Wall, Brick Wall and Stone Bricks

SparkFire_OPlast month(edited)

The trims/sherds are actually the best probably!

Duckylast month

it could be really nice to go for candle at trail ruins since they are in some biomes with no beehives and it would skip digging for trial chamber or ancient city

SparkFire_OPlast month

Oh yeah forgot about that one!

tjthingslast month

So let me dig in the buried maze structure instead aga

Duckylast month

just hit the tower top highroll aga

SparkFire_OPlast month

You spend like 2 min digging to city vs have to find some buried suspicious gravel both can be viable depending on situation

Duckylast month

I used a binomial distribution calculator to find how likely it is to get each item from the tower_top section, and how likely from tower_top and tower sections combined

Duckylast month(edited)

Important things here:
- the 2 gravel in tower_top have a 32% chance to hit for candle, absolutely worth it
- if you don't hit candle in tower_top, you have an 86% chance to get at least one from tower_top and the main tower segment together
- For most early game goals that involve the common suspicious gravel loot tables, the odds are bad
- for anything in the rare loot table, dig straight down through the floor of the tower_top section into the main tower section
- Sherds are ~93% in the main tower section from the 3 rare sus gravel there
- Armor trims are also very likely in the 3 rare sus gravel at ~70%
- There's about 23% chance to get the relic disc, which isn't great but isn't terrible. You could highroll for it

Duckylast month

The odds on the chart are the chances of getting at least 1 of the item

Duckylast month

Some more info about the tower sections:
- only 1 of 5 possible tower_top sections has mud bricks and it only has 3 so you will still need a stonecutter if you don't want to dig more. It's the one with the blue and red terracotta
- 3 of 5 of the possible tower sections has lots of mud bricks in the walls, so you can make mud brick wall without a stonecutter if you need to.
- the other 2 have regular bricks instead so if you see regular bricks you need to dig until you hit a stone brick/cobblestone floor, then check the other sections

Duckylast month

To insta mine gravel you need efficiency 3 on a gold or netherite shovel and efficiency 4 on any other type of shovel

Duckylast month

ok I'm done researching for today, hopefully this is useful to someone!