Only unfreeze ticks once the match starts

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Threadfinn30 messagesstarted Aug 7, 2026, 9:11 PM

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ThreadfinnOP2 months ago

I know standardizing mob wandering is a nearly impossible task, but if ticks are going to be frozen for the draft phase and most of the planning phase why not extend it all the way to when the player can start moving? There'll still be a small amount of time they can wander usually because the player can't generally complete a mob-based goal instantly, but reducing the amount of time mobs at spawn have to wander randomly would reduce the chance of a goal flipping just due to rng.

ThreadfinnOP2 months ago

The only downside to this is it might remove having to adjust your line because of mobs wandering. (I just had to skip turtle egg early because all the turtles were in the water after just a couple seconds). But for most situations I don't think a few blocks difference affects decision making, just adds rng. And even if you do have to adjust your line because the mobs walked away, they might not have for the other player.

ThreadfinnOP2 months ago

Unless it can cause lag for some people with all the block updates that can occur when the ticks unfreeze, then maybe just reduce it down to only 1-2 seconds before match start.

GracefulBeauty2 months ago(edited)

pretty sure it would cause lag with all the ai pathfinding, same thing happens when i increase sim dist

GracefulBeauty2 months ago(edited)

or even when game starts if my sd is 32, the lag lasts ~15s from ticks being unfrozen so it affects ~12s of game time

GracefulBeauty2 months ago(edited)

i saw someone suggest draftout could start your sd at 5 (or lower?) and gradually increase it to your actual sd setting to prevent early game lag. that would help a lot

ThreadfinnOP2 months ago

That might be good

ThreadfinnOP2 months ago

SD in general is an issue since it can flip some goals but it's hard for a lot of people to run

emusic2 months ago

i don't have an issue with lag, but curious what the best SD is throughout the run? i keep mine at max but i never know where to put it

emusic2 months ago

in otherwords, is there a good reason to lower SD if no lag/no immediate strat like hostile mob farming

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

it's board-dependent

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

low SD means animals don't wander but they also don't age up (which takes 20 minutes of being loaded and within SD), and bees don't produce honey, chickens don't produce eggs, armadillos don't produce scute

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

low SD also reduces hostile mob despawning (in a very specific way)

emusic2 months ago

i think i initially raised mine bc i heard its good for the bees, lol

emusic2 months ago

but yeah the despawning throws me

GracefulBeauty2 months ago(edited)

also low SD is required for endar, but you can lower it when you start and raise after

emusic2 months ago

edar is not the block entity pie (like for finding tc) right

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

yeah it's regular entity pie, like chest minecart or piglin brute or wolf, bee, fox, camel, etc whatever entity you want

emusic2 months ago

ok gottcha, thanks. i'll look more into the distinction between RD and SD for spawning/despawning as well

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

yeah, check out this thread if you haven't already https://discord.com/channels/1493030345048719483/1532884899948920912/1532884899948920912

emusic2 months ago

i actually saved that thread, it is very informative but a lot of it went over my head lol

dumb question maybe: RD is what you adjust for pie'ing block entities, is SD what you would likewise adjust for pie'ing entites?

GracefulBeauty2 months ago(edited)

it's RD for both. basically within RD => visible and loaded, whereas outside SD => frozen in time

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

they don't do anything else

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

and if something isn't loaded then it's inherently frozen in time as well

emusic2 months ago

ooh the time thing is helpful

emusic2 months ago

thank you

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

SD for endar is good because you want to freeze entities in time so they don't wander around

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

but just lowering it to 5, not adjusting it to find the distance

emusic2 months ago

you are the best at explaining stuff ty

Lexingtonius2 months ago

Personally, i get crazy stutters in those 3 seconds after tick unfreeze even on very low rd and 5 sim distance. would make early goals unplayable for people with bad PCs, so please no