Make Cake count as food
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marvel92 messagesstarted Aug 6, 2026, 5:21 AM
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1Feinberg2 months ago
inconsistency w vanilla
marvelOP2 months ago
idc it's frickin cake 
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noura π2 months ago
cakes are weird idk if there's a vanilla advancement trigger that works for eating cake
marvelOP2 months ago(edited)
we'll make it chocolate then
62marvelOP2 months ago
sorry. bad joke. absolutely hilarious to me rn
maskers2 months ago
does water bottle not count as food in vanilla
maskers2 months ago
i know ranked no food advancement breaks if you drink fire res and iirc the argument for that is that vanilla treats drinkable potions as food
noura π2 months ago
it doesn't
noura π2 months ago
not for A Balanced Diet
noura π2 months ago
that's always been bs to me
noura π2 months ago
plus in 26.1 potions don't even have the
minecraft:food item componentmaskers2 months ago(edited)
oh abd is fair yeah, i was thinking of smth like foods eaten stat
but yeah i agree abd should prob be the standard for draftout
but yeah i agree abd should prob be the standard for draftout
noura π2 months ago
i don't think there's a cumulative stat for every food, looks like they just use the "item used" counter in the items tab for each one
DriftSythe2 months ago
pretty sure itβs only honey
nakedhippo2195872 months ago
do you eat or drink a water bottle lol
Threadfinn2 months ago
It counts for husbandry root I think
Threadfinn2 months ago
Which is why in ranked it cancels the foodless achievement
Threadfinn2 months ago
Idk if it still does that in 26.1 though it might not since they changed the item id
noura π2 months ago
the item id didn't change no
Threadfinn2 months ago
You're right, I meant this
noura π2 months ago
tested just now, it does grant husbandry, and so do ominous bottles
noura π2 months ago
the trigger just checks for any consumed item, and both of them have the
minecraft:consumable component despite not having minecraft:foodnoura π2 months ago
imo having
food is a clear way to decide what counts as a food item, no?Uniquepotatoes2 months ago
βinconsistency with vanillaβ yeah but its literallllly foood thooo
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pinkpuff2 months ago
What is the vanilla part of it though /gen like what stat is tracked that doesnt for cake
noura π2 months ago
A Balanced Diet doesn't count cakes, and it doesn't increment the "Item used" stat for cakes
Threadfinn2 months ago
But also how often are you eating cake but can't find a 25tg food, and how would they even detect eating cake?
pinkpuff2 months ago
But there is the "eat cake" goal , so then that not counting for a food you eat feels pretty disjoint too
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pinkpuff2 months ago
Just kinda weird either way
Threadfinn2 months ago
Ig it's like counting warden for unique hostiles
beniibobs2 months ago
which they should do if they change it to monsters btw (shameless self promo)
Threadfinn2 months ago
well currently warden does count
Threadfinn2 months ago
do you know if warden counts towards the monsters mob cap?
Threadfinn2 months ago
the wiki doesn't say
marvelOP2 months ago
INCONSISTENCYyyYyy
marvelOP2 months ago
Threadfinn2 months ago
Imo warden and cake both shouldn't count
Threadfinn2 months ago
Advancement consistency just makes more sense
Threadfinn2 months ago
And cake is so much worse than warden
noura π2 months ago
warden convo should go in https://discord.com/channels/1493030345048719483/1533272608253149194
marvelOP2 months ago
i think it should be food because it's food irl
marvelOP2 months ago
it seems more natural
Threadfinn2 months ago
Warden for uniques they can just copy the monsters hunted list and add warden. But for cake they'd have to add an entirely new detection method to the unique food goal
marvelOP2 months ago
like instinctively i would think it counts and i think most people would if you aren't an AA runner
noura π2 months ago
no i get that, it'd be a lot easier of a solution if vanilla wasn't weird about them lol
noura π2 months ago
maybe, but since it's eaten in block form it's not that intuitive i feel like
marvelOP2 months ago
idk! i can only really speak for myself
marvelOP2 months ago
even if you don't eat it from your hand i'd still think "oh yeah i have enough iron i could make cake for my 25th food"
marvelOP2 months ago
or overlap cake goal with it
Threadfinn2 months ago
Imo a good reason to keep lists vanilla is that it makes it easier to look up
marvelOP2 months ago
that's a decent counter-argument
marvelOP2 months ago
i don't know if it's so much of a problem but if it were
Threadfinn2 months ago
I mean some people will be confused either way
Threadfinn2 months ago
Feinberg got confused when he killed warden and it counted for unique hostiles
Threadfinn2 months ago
But if it didn't count then some other people would get confused
Threadfinn2 months ago
I think the cake one is more clear, because cake isn't a food when you look it up, while warden as a monster depends on definition
noura π2 months ago
people will get confused either way so
marvelOP2 months ago
it would be absurd to me if warden didn't count
marvelOP2 months ago
like ALL THAT EFFORT for no credit omg
marvelOP2 months ago

marvelOP2 months ago
forgive me my queen
elephant "vanessa" yarn2 months ago
Speaking for myself as someone who has never played this game mode, it is not intuitive that cake does not count as a food.
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noura π2 months ago
to be fair, one could also consider "food" to be "things that fill your hunger bar", in which case cakes would count
noura π2 months ago
to me it doesn't feel as concrete as the
food component or ABD but it's still a valid readingGracefulBeauty2 months ago
dying is a food 
4nakedhippo2195872 months ago(edited)
honey bottle fills the hunger bar as well
does it count in the mission in the draft?
does it count in the mission in the draft?
noura π2 months ago
yes, honey bottle counts for the goal, and ABD
noura π2 months ago
it's a separate item id from water bottle anyway
nakedhippo2195872 months ago
yeah
but cake really dosen't count?
but cake really dosen't count?
noura π2 months ago
it doesn't
nakedhippo2195872 months ago

Uniquepotatoeslast month
cake isnt a food but you can compost it for unique foods
Uniquepotatoeslast month
make it make sense
pinkpufflast month
"Eat Cake" goal but eating a cake doesnt count for eating unique foods goals 

qcomlast month
Why donβt we just have aura and say that vanilla is inconsistent with draftout
qcomlast month
Instead of draftout being inconsistent with vanilla
8GracefulBeautylast month
cake is food until you eat it
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Lilalast month
schrΓΆdinger's cake: you dont know if the cake is food or not until you eat it
Artnautalast month
The cake is a lie?
noura πlast month
yes
nakedhippo219587last month
#freecake
nakedhippo219587last month
it's been held from it's rights to be count as food
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Chloralast month
I just think cake counting for composter but not for unique foods is really weird
Chloralast month
And kinda misleading to new players since it clearly cycles through cake for composter
CompactFacelast month
isnt there a goal that specifically checks for "eat a slice of cake"
noura πlast month
yes
noura πlast month
notably, it is not a vanilla advancement
mei2 weeks ago
cake
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