Semi niche death goal

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qovet9 messagesstarted Jul 30, 2026, 2:58 PM

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qovetOP2 months ago

The goal would be to obtain the deathmessage “death.fell.accident.water” which triggers when the player dies of fall damage while in water, which may seem impossible but there are two easy methods i know to get this deatessage.
-ride a minecart onto a watwrlogged slab
-jump into water, throw a pearl and the pearl has to land somewhere where you immedietly fall to your death

I think this goal is good because it has MANY overlapping possibilities such as
-its a nether goal because of bastions
-overlaps with ride in a minecart to justify spending 5/11 iron
-if you find an enderman at night
-and there are probably more methods to get rhis deathmessage and it allows for players to expirment on ways to get this

And if you think this is too niche then what about breed frogs? How many people knew that before draftout, or how many people knew 15 hostile mobs to kill, or how many people knew how to obtain sus gravel

If you think this goal shouldnt be in draftout because its a bug, so is obtain sus sand/gravel

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qovetOP2 months ago

(mojang also decided not to patch the bug)

Threadfinn2 months ago

I think you should've left this message in the other thread since it's just the same suggestion

qovetOP2 months ago

ill js deletw it

isawabelle2 months ago

is this not the exact same suggestion as the one you just deleted

Jade2 months ago

people have already pointed out a number of issues with this but i'll also mention that the goal description should pretty clearly explain what you are meant to do without necessarily needing to explain how, don't think this goal or its related death message are all that intuitive and the solutions to obtain are not either. the comparison to other goals also falls flat to me because it is pretty realistic to know how to interact with minecraft's newer features if you've played on the new versions. frogs are a new feature that players are encouraged by mojang to interact with, so they are much more likely to know how to do that through normal gameplay than something like this which isn't really an intended gameplay feature. I do agree that obtain sus block also carries the same problem though even though i do like it as a goal.
i think adding goals to achieve more specific death messages is a good idea, but this one is too esoteric imo. like falling off vines is a very uncommon death message in normal gameplay but it makes perfect sense what you are meant to do to achieve it

blanket addict2 months ago

I like obtain suspicious block and clipping to the nether roof because both basically feel like mechanics to me, even if them being intentional is questionable

blanket addict2 months ago(edited)

both have reasons to come up in regular gameplay, and there's no real alternatives to them so them being left in the game seems like a conscious decision

blanket addict2 months ago

so I think it's fine for a goal to be entirely unintuitive, it just also has to feel like a part of the game, which is very much vibes based but this specific thing just doesn't feel right to me to highlight with a goal