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Artnauta2 months ago

Diverse? It's iron, sticks, redstone and gold (+sticks and pressure plate), plenty of goals already require those.

Artnauta2 months ago

I guess there is some decision making in when you do it as you could most of the time use those resources for other goals

FtmbOP2 months ago

yeah, pretty much diverse, requires a lot of useful items and is pretty overlappable

FtmbOP2 months ago

the issue is that theres already some rail goals

noura 🜛2 months ago

loot chest goal is free for anyone who goes boating, and we have enough ocean goals imo

FtmbOP2 months ago

@noura 🜛 maybe 20+ loot chests? could overlap with village, bastions, etc

beniibobs2 months ago

this is just number of loot chests, not number of unique loot chests right?

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

would be cool idea tbh

FtmbOP2 months ago

oh i thought of loot chests in general (a single chest counts once, but you can get multiple shipwrecks or sum), but could go both ways

noura 🜛2 months ago

that just makes it require boating even more though. the average bastion has 4 or 5 chests and it's a big time commitment, while you can find a string of shipwrecks and bts to do the same goal much earlier

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

I liked this idea
I think 15-20 is good
because if you spawn in village then it's kinda going to be mid game completion

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nakedhippo2195872 months ago

or it's possible to make this mission to when village in near by or something? then after village having like 7 chest its easier

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

shipwrecks have 3 chest in maximum

and ruins have from 2 to 5 chests

FtmbOP2 months ago

if the goal was super specific i see what you're saying, but nether can overlap a lotta stuff aswell so depends a lot, and if it counts as unique loot chests (like @beniibobs said) you wouldnt be able to just loot a lot of ships i guess

noura 🜛2 months ago

i don't think you're getting 7 chests in 90% of villages

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

in good fortress as well you can find a lot of chests

beniibobs2 months ago

4-5 is like bridge, other bastions have a bit more on average tbf

FtmbOP2 months ago

treasure has the most chests i think?

beniibobs2 months ago

still ocean is strong, 3 ship chests, 1 bt chest, ocean ruin chests, rp chests

FtmbOP2 months ago

for sure

noura 🜛2 months ago

i don't think treasure can beat triple triple stables

beniibobs2 months ago

nah it’s stables unless im stupid

FtmbOP2 months ago

ah right

beniibobs2 months ago

on average, though stables has a bigger range

FtmbOP2 months ago

also not the most optimal but fortresses also have loot chests

beniibobs2 months ago

idk the average number of chests in forts but it doesn’t seem to be that much, if someone has numbers pls tell me

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

btw in housing units bastion can be up to 20-25 chests

beniibobs2 months ago

Very very astronomically low chance of 25 chests in housing

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

but this when you extreme lucky but its usually 10+

beniibobs2 months ago

Stables can have 28 tho

MangoBaum2 months ago

A bastion does have more then 4 or 5 chests TwT

beniibobs2 months ago(edited)

similarly very very stupidly low

MangoBaum2 months ago

If it’s not bridge

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

wiki says 1-2 chests only

beniibobs2 months ago

i mean given that 5 are guaranteed that can’t be right

MangoBaum2 months ago

Assuming double chests count double ofc

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

must be lol

MangoBaum2 months ago

And even then upper treasure has 3 already

FtmbOP2 months ago

not really worth it but still overlappable

FtmbOP2 months ago

and ive seen fortresses with more than 5 chests

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

MangoBaum2 months ago

I think this is about bottom

MangoBaum2 months ago

Bruh

beniibobs2 months ago

it means bottom, 3 of 4 centres have 1 chest, 1 has 2

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

oh actually might be

FtmbOP2 months ago

oh ur talking about treasure

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

?

noura 🜛2 months ago

maybe i'm too mcsr brained, you get 4 in treasure, ~5 in housing, ~4 in bridge, and ~4 in the most average stables

MangoBaum2 months ago

Yes u have the tab for treasure room open, so bottom

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

oh mb lol

noura 🜛2 months ago

assuming 1 triple for bridge and stables

MangoBaum2 months ago

We just talked past each other TwT all good /g

beniibobs2 months ago

I calculated average 5 for bridge, 7.58 for treasure, 9.81 for housing and 11.6 for stables

beniibobs2 months ago

I mean bridge has to be 5, you have average 2 chests per rampart plus lodestone

noura 🜛2 months ago

you'd have to go out of your way a lot for those tho

beniibobs2 months ago

true

MangoBaum2 months ago

Then stables still has body and it we only counted double chest once

noura 🜛2 months ago

but that can overlap with netherite scrap and stuff

beniibobs2 months ago

or snout

MangoBaum2 months ago

I was talking about treasure with them, while they talked about bottom treasure

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

for example if lets every bastion has 5 average every single time

and village has 5 every single time

and you left with 5 more
you can get them from shipwreck and ruins

it's ofc a long run mission but you do that ik any ways

shipwreck ruins and village not that hard to find

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

or lower it to 10

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

because I think 20 is crazy amout

beniibobs2 months ago

I keep replying to the wrong messages, my b

MangoBaum2 months ago

TwT happens to the best

beniibobs2 months ago

and then we hadn’t even begun to question whether it’s just chests or any loot container

beniibobs2 months ago

bc TC would be broken with barrels and pots

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

probably he meant loot container

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

if not then it's not smart to add it lol

FtmbOP2 months ago

chests

FtmbOP2 months ago

only

FtmbOP2 months ago

wym

FtmbOP2 months ago

i mean you could consider all loot containers

FtmbOP2 months ago

but most ones are chest either way

FtmbOP2 months ago

pots could be cool bc of trial chambers

beniibobs2 months ago

if it includes barrels and pots then the non-unique 20 version just becomes TC, that’s all im saying

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

I meant otherwise lol

FtmbOP2 months ago

whats TC

beniibobs2 months ago

trial chamber

FtmbOP2 months ago

oh ic

FtmbOP2 months ago

and agreed

FtmbOP2 months ago

it should only include chests imo

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

finding trial chamber is rare so it dosent really matter if its added with it or not

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

yes agree

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

most of the runs you need to find shipwreck for tnt or heart of sea

so you would already know where you need to find ruins after being in bastion

noura 🜛2 months ago

huh

noura 🜛2 months ago

you have to go to a trial chamber basically every other game

noura 🜛2 months ago

they have so many goals

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

why is that? if he talk about just regular chests

Artnauta2 months ago

for goals other than the one suggested

beniibobs2 months ago(edited)

I mean unique chests mean you have to explore more instead of milking the same structures, problem is most easily accessible unique chests are in the ocean

beniibobs2 months ago

but idk what it’d be compared to the average village

FtmbOP2 months ago

if its 15 chests ocean isnt enough though

FtmbOP2 months ago

but surely is the most effective

FtmbOP2 months ago

neither do i

beniibobs2 months ago

still i think there’s something in there strategy wise, i can see it making interesting lines

FtmbOP2 months ago

same

nakedhippo2195872 months ago(edited)

idk why people diss like this without even giving option

when this mission is finishable in the way of progressing other missions

nakedhippo2195872 months ago

you find village you progress it

you find ocean and you are searching for cave in ocean you find ruins and shipwreck

you in nether you find bastion and fortress

wasn't enough to finish? go back to ocean and find ruins

I think 10 chest could be easy
but 15 is like for end of the draft or if you get lucky

Streakify2 months ago

Not a fan of all rails, there alr is a lot of iron goals and a lot of redstone goals and combining them will just make it worse

Streakify2 months ago

Prob will take longer than even the anvil goals or iron golem goals or just way more commitment since you need lots of individual resources like redstone + gold

Streakify2 months ago

And also individual rail goals

noura 🜛2 months ago

true

noura 🜛2 months ago

~~i forgot this suggestion was about rails initially~~

noura 🜛2 months ago

maybe that's why it's good to have separate threads for separate ideas

beniibobs2 months ago

I was thinking that earlier, lots of the discussion has just been about one of them

Ramzs2 months ago

i like open chest goal, neutral to all rail

AKI2 months ago

I mean all rail goal is just mineshaft and it does have the 2nd option of crafting all the rails so it's not that bad

FtmbOP2 months ago

mineshaft only has one type of rail

FtmbOP2 months ago

yeah i just didnt wanna spam suggestions, but might be better if i create anothr thread

noura 🜛2 months ago

the chests can generate the others sometimes

noura 🜛2 months ago

plus all the ingredients for more

noura 🜛2 months ago

saves you from mining/crafting

AKI2 months ago

The chests ussualy have like 2-3 types in them

FtmbOP2 months ago

oh

beniibobs2 months ago

you can get all 4 rails from minecart chests (not from the same 1 tho, max 3)

galoomba2 months ago

ocean also has ocean ruins which can have like 7 chests

beniibobs2 months ago

It’d just nearly always be correct to do ocean

get all rail types goal + open 10 loot chests goal