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OpenRudyRudy450 messagesstarted Jul 20, 2026, 1:58 AM
RudyRudyOP2 months ago
A little outside the concept of this channel if it needs to be removed thats okay

I wanted to make this thread to act as a collection of resources, ideas, and planning on beating Feinberg's 7x7 board from hell: https://discord.com/channels/1493030345048719483/1528222431926423642

Concepts such as early iron farms, specific f3 biome parameteres, what a good seed should look like, etc.
maya
maya2 months ago
i will say, if you want to use an iron farm, what fyroah was doing seemed very very functional
maya
maya2 months ago
im gonna go grab the vod
maya
maya2 months ago
if its up
maya
maya2 months ago
fyroah went live on Twitch. Catch up on their Minecraft VOD now.
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maya
maya2 months ago
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Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Gonna give it my first blind attempt now aga ill report back if i think of anything during the 3 hours of peaceful meditation
maya
maya2 months ago
good luck rudy
maya
maya2 months ago(edited)
o7
marvel
marvel2 months ago
both fein and fyroah spend an ungodly amt of time searching for a way to get resin but would focusing pale garden/mansion spawn make desert the same thing? i feel like i see deserts way more often idk
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Deserts are also extremely rare, they're just bigger than pale gardens
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
And draftout is likely to spawn you near a desert for desert temple
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Is set seed allowed for this challenge?
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Implied not but the only given rule was end city has to be last
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Starting with desert+ pale garden would save a lot of the rng
maya
maya2 months ago
it just defeats the purpose for sure
maya
maya2 months ago
set seed is obviously going to be doable
Feinberg
Feinberg2 months ago
no set seed
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Feinberg
Feinberg2 months ago
i think early mansion is rly good
Feinberg
Feinberg2 months ago
resin + nice surrounding biomes + bookshelves + chain?
Feinberg
Feinberg2 months ago
idk its just not necessary if u hit biomes tho
Feinberg
Feinberg2 months ago
could always just do any% and use stronghold / dragon levels to get enchants for stuff
Feinberg
Feinberg2 months ago
and then set a bed with a few pearls and tools in sh
Feinberg
Feinberg2 months ago
u could then just die when rly far out (or nether roof back) to get end city last
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
I thought of that but it's annoying with the death goals
Feinberg
Feinberg2 months ago
wither skull seems fucked but its also just rly fast if ur lucky. and an enchanted pick would be alright
Feinberg
Feinberg2 months ago
but its probably just too slow
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Does pearl hang work to a chunk that's far away in this version since they load chunks?
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
That actually might work for setting spawn in sh. And then just throw a pearl straight up before each of the death goals
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Then maybe any% first is worth it since it also would save the issue of not being near the guaranteed nether structures after looking for overworld biomes
maya
maya2 months ago
fein was saying something abt it kinda defeating the purpose on stream
maya
maya2 months ago
but idk how much i personally agree w that, i think its kinda cool and about as valid as killing the dragon at the end
maya
maya2 months ago
pearls themselves loading chunks just means its Never possible, right?
maya
maya2 months ago
to do a pearl hang
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
I guess I didn't mean pearl hang like normal
maya
maya2 months ago
like even if the pearl is somehow 50 chunks away its still loading the chunk 50 chunks away
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
I mean pearl back to where you died
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Since the main issue with doing any% first is that you need to set spawn for warden, trident, powder snow, polatr bear
maya
maya2 months ago
oh i see
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
But if you didn't have to set spawn for those and could keep it in sh it would be great
maya
maya2 months ago
idk the timing is probably Really finnicky for some of the death goals
maya
maya2 months ago
like itd be easy to do that with freezing and polar bear but trident idk
maya
maya2 months ago
maybe all of them r fine
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Warden probably has to be done before any% but I think the rest are fine
maya
maya2 months ago
theres an inherent risk like
maya
maya2 months ago
if u fuck it up at all
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
yeah there is
maya
maya2 months ago
you risk losing everything
maya
maya2 months ago
and that might make it not worth at all
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
If you fuck it up it's as bad as if you just died
maya
maya2 months ago
also is there anything that makes this better than starting out in a desert
maya
maya2 months ago
youre gonna have to hit rare biomes either way right
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Any% first feels like it's more consistent than trying to quickly hit 36 diamonds and wither skull, but I don't think it's faster than just getting lucky
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
You can get resin in mansion
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
So could skip pale garden
maya
maya2 months ago
any% is like both risky and more consistent at the same time which is funny
maya
maya2 months ago
yea but u need cactus for cyan wool right
maya
maya2 months ago
so instead of the rare biome being pale garden, its a desert now
maya
maya2 months ago
idk if theres another way to get cyan
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Yeah desert is still needed
maya
maya2 months ago
like no matter which way you slice it you still just need to get lucky
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Ancient cities give some but not enough
maya
maya2 months ago
it depends on whats rarer technically
maya
maya2 months ago
yeah youd need to hit way too many for that to be feasible, especially without an elytra
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Technically could use igloo cactus, but I just don't see any way that's fast enough
maya
maya2 months ago
wouldnt u need a bunch of igloos
maya
maya2 months ago
atp a desert would just be way easier anyways lol
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Maybe could let it grow with a chunk loader?
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
But I don't think it's feasible
Feinberg
Feinberg2 months ago
how much cyan wool is in mansion lol
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
It's only in one room, I think it's 19
maya
maya2 months ago
is there a reliable consistent source of cyan wool in mansions
maya
maya2 months ago
ou
maya
maya2 months ago
Thats about as good as an ancient city
maya
maya2 months ago
which is to say, not good enough LOL
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
You'd need to highroll 4 of the ocean wave rooms in mansion
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
It's at least possible to get enough from one mansion, city isn't
maya
maya2 months ago
what are the odds for that room generating
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Unsure
maya
maya2 months ago
because they all have different odds right
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Yeah
maya
maya2 months ago
if u get the seed with the 64 cyan wool mansion
maya
maya2 months ago
theres a legit use case for this
maya
maya2 months ago
but only if its not stupidly rare
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
But also that's coming out of your room allotment for rooms with resin.
maya
maya2 months ago
having 64 cyan wool and raid mobs and resin done (or just very progressed at least) basically off the start would be rlly good
maya
maya2 months ago
yea true
maya
maya2 months ago
unless theyre all decently common rooms, itd be a pain in the ass to roll for
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
I think the ocean room is reasonably common, but 4 is insane
maya
maya2 months ago
also
maya
maya2 months ago
u can only get resin from 1 room right
maya
maya2 months ago
and i think that room is also reasonably common but resin isnt too common in the loot table for the chest in that room
maya
maya2 months ago
so its just gamba on top of gamba on top of gamba
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Yeah it's rarer than just getting desert + pale garden
maya
maya2 months ago
unfortunately
maya
maya2 months ago
wouldnt that have been so sick tho
black - dark blue pfp guy
black - dark blue pfp guy2 months ago
i made a little draft of a plan, feedback pls 🙏
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
This is just the ianxofour iron farm right
maya
maya2 months ago
fuck if i know!
maya
maya2 months ago
im just a guppy in a sea of geniuses
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SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
I think it is but with a worse killing mechanism
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
A simple, practical iron farm in survival that is optimized for early game constraints. Does not work on Bedrock Edition.
- Minimal building material requirements (30 easy-to-obtain items need placement)
- Fast build time (less than 1 Minecraft day)
- No iron needed beforehand
- No lava needed
- No nametag needed, any zombie will work
- Easy ...
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Tutorial for anyone who wants it
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago(edited)
yo is a swamp early part of the route? since you need slime balls for breed frog. or is doing an ominous trial for oozing slime the play?
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
I mean you need a swamp for frogs as well
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago(edited)
Not just for slime
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
mhm, but you dont get slimes after the first night cause of the mooncycle right
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Idk what the moon starts on
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
the first night is the one needed for slimes thats all i know
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
full moon i think?
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago(edited)
Slimes can spawn with every moon other than a new moon
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
But the fuller the moon the more they spawn
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
ah i see
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
so night 2 you cant get them i guess?
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
So as long as first night isn’t a new moon you should be fine
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
thats probably just why im confused with it then no worries
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i didnt find a swamp at all anyway saga
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
If the first day is the start of the cycle the new moon would be on night 5
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
interesting okay
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
so like 1h 40 ish in?
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
1:30?
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Yeah that gives plenty of time but for all ik what moon phase you start on might be random
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Wiki doesn’t say
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
It just lists them in chronological order and puts the full moon at 1 and new moon at 5
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i was always under the understanding that you start on a full moon but i could be crazy
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
You’re probably right
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Ik fyroah had a new moon on night 2 yesterday
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
hm
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
So maybe it's random?
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
maybeeee
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Someone go test
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Just open a ton of worlds use /time add to get to night and see if it’s the same phase every time
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
slime don’t spawn for one night out of 8 but knowing my luck that will be the night I go to kill slimes
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i do like the route of doing any% first but leaving end city
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
would be awesome to have a pearl-hang on command but im not sure how they work in rv i think it needs like crazy complex setup right 😭
Torca
Torca2 months ago
Instead of pearl hanging for stronghold first, just set up a fishing rod stasis chamber in portal room, you just need to grab kelp before you go to sh
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
doesnt work
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
im testing stuff like that rn
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
rod seems to snap/nothold when you enter end
Torca
Torca2 months ago
No I meant go to end but set bed in pr
Torca
Torca2 months ago
and then nether portal out
Torca
Torca2 months ago
with the lava in pr
Torca
Torca2 months ago
sorry I should have specified
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
rod breaks when you go to nether
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i think they fixed that maybe?
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
at some point i really dont know
Torca
Torca2 months ago
I have been doing it in 26.2
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
hmm
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
maybe im stupid and doing it wrong u can test it
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Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i couldnt work out fishing rod so i was tryna make a clock + dispenser with enough items to keep the pressure plate pressed for like 2h-2.5h 😭 i think its stupid but it would be funny
Torca
Torca2 months ago
lol
black - dark blue pfp guy
black - dark blue pfp guy2 months ago
complete plan
Torca
Torca2 months ago
worked fine for me
Torca
Torca2 months ago
make sure to put pearl and pressure plate in different chunks
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
oh i didnt know that was a thing
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
😭
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
yeah that works
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i think thats the play
Torca
Torca2 months ago
all good lol
Torca
Torca2 months ago
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
you probably dont even need kelp if you just get 2 buckets
Torca
Torca2 months ago
true
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
is there anythign that would make it tp you/not work?
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
like can you die all fine?
Torca
Torca2 months ago
oh wait
Torca
Torca2 months ago
if you die the pearl goes away
Torca
Torca2 months ago
so nvm this doesn't work
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
fuck really
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
😭
Torca
Torca2 months ago
oh that also means the "pearl hang" the other guy was talking about doesn't work either
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
well was a nice attempt
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
lowkey if you have a cold + ocean spawn and you can get all 3 die goals out of the way early it could be viable aga
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
although you'd have to kill warden without dying
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
alternatively using stasis things like this could be helpful for a pale oak/swamp if you find one at morning and dont want to wait around for 10 minutes
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
can focus on nether goals while waiting for it to turn night
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
or to go far out in nether for hot tourist without leaving your spawn location if you have a good spawn?
Torca
Torca2 months ago
or maybe for mansion or something
Torca
Torca2 months ago
maybe to get back to stronghold you could build a portal to it on the nether roof?
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
yeah i think thats what fein suggested when mentioning any% first
Torca
Torca2 months ago
oops lol I only read like the first half of his messages
Torca
Torca2 months ago
I feel like one big thing that could help more is if you use horse a lot, I think Fein only did it a bit in his run
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
depthstrider + dolphin on lead aswell
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago(edited)
is very helpful
Torca
Torca2 months ago
true
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
I mean if you get die to polar bear out of the way and get a trident during the run you could activate stasis and then do the other two death goals in portal room
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Idk how viable that is cuz of trident tho
black - dark blue pfp guy
black - dark blue pfp guy2 months ago
get trident in trial chamber aga and hit yourself aga
Torca
Torca2 months ago
I wonder if we are forcing mansion spawn anyway we can get the levels from deep dark and not do stronghold first
Torca
Torca2 months ago
if we need to force swamp you can trade for witch hut maps with level 2 cartographers from snowy/taiga
black - dark blue pfp guy
black - dark blue pfp guy2 months ago
why snowy
black - dark blue pfp guy
black - dark blue pfp guy2 months ago
are cartographer trades different per biome
Torca
Torca2 months ago
yeah
Torca
Torca2 months ago
ig you can also force desert from savannah in the same way
Torca
Torca2 months ago
good to know if you are just missing one biome
Torca
Torca2 months ago
small thing but you can save time on lead 8 by just keeping the carved pumpkin you wear and getting a copper block from trial chamber for copper golem

If you overlap that with hired help you can just do defaults + horse + squid + golem in any plains
black - dark blue pfp guy
black - dark blue pfp guy2 months ago
you could overlap hired help and copper golem with leash 8 lol
Torca
Torca2 months ago
that's what I meant lol
black - dark blue pfp guy
black - dark blue pfp guy2 months ago
mb we prolly sent our messages at the same time
Torca
Torca2 months ago
he slept a few times I think, it wasn't really night 2
Torca
Torca2 months ago
from doypingu vid
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Ok maybe it was night 4 since he did sleep, didn't think of that
joey
joey2 months ago
phase = (day mod 8) + 1

which makes sense that 4 would be new moon
joey
joey2 months ago
"day" in this case meaning the "days played" from f3 which would start at 0
spaced
spaced2 months ago
Villager line strats which should be viable in an actual run and reduce rng
Torca
Torca2 months ago
raid strat looks really good, I think you might be trading for too much though, I just don't think you're going to get enough iron to do all of that
joey
joey2 months ago
you can supplement emerald cost with trading wheat to farmer and sticks to fletcher i imagine, but idk what the total costs will be
Torca
Torca2 months ago
also what is the point of blocking trial chamber and monument trade? Does it just guarantee compass? If so that would be good for the glass pane trade too
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
am i missing something with mansion? is it for the resin and possible anvil? i feel like its not as crucial but i could be insane
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
like is it the goal if you DONT have pale/dark oak anywhere
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i could just be like blindsided cause all my runs so far ive had 0 issue with pale oak
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i didnt realize how powerful gifts are though i wanna incorporate that
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Forwarded
i've been doing trial chamber nearby village to get goals + emeralds + ominous bottle +, doing raid for all raid mobs, then having hotv to trade with armourer at discount
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
was typing in main channel by accident for this
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
tbh maybe mansion is nice for climate parameteres too im not too sure abotu all that
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
How long do you have to stand near the armorer for him to just throw you the chainmail without trading?
Torca
Torca2 months ago
I was just testing it, it maybe took me like a minute or two but it might have been bc it was meeting time
Torca
Torca2 months ago
I was mainly trying out the tnt raid, a bit scary without prot armor but doable, especially using boats to go through the portal instead of pearls
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
probably is mentioned in the video but make sure you get vex spawn kill cred if ur doing tnt raid if you havent already
Torca
Torca2 months ago
oh yeah I'll check that
Torca
Torca2 months ago
I didn't get kill credit
Torca
Torca2 months ago
so ig just don't tnt one of the waves
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
mhm cause the vex doesnt spawn unless the evoker needs line of sight to summon them
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
in 1.16 aa all i know is you light the tnt late but i think this is different if you're going into nether
Torca
Torca2 months ago
maybe that would work, I didn't do anything like that. The video assumes you already went to a mansion to get vex trim so it does easy raid
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
mhm
Torca
Torca2 months ago
ig you do wave 6 since there's less mobs than wave 5?
Torca
Torca2 months ago
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
wave 5 gives you a 2nd chance if you mess it up though ig aga
Torca
Torca2 months ago
there's also wave 7
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
oh icic
Torca
Torca2 months ago
basically when you see the first ravager, don't tnt next wave
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
thats the thing with using hotv though i tend to just try and get enough emeralds from the tc before hand to trade for the chain armour pre/during raid and then i dont need to finish the raid i can just leave after kiklling the mobs i need
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i think the most powerful thing there is xp bottle as a gift though aswell
Torca
Torca2 months ago(edited)
TNT raid is so fast though I think it’s worth doing the last wave for chain and xp bottle
maya
maya2 months ago
what are the odds of lightining over the course of like 2 to 3 hours
maya
maya2 months ago
i wonder if theres literally any validity whatsoever to getting a charged creeper to kill a wither skeleton 😭
Torca
Torca2 months ago
Fein got thunder in his run bc of course he did
maya
maya2 months ago
he did yea
maya
maya2 months ago
but if the odds arent too good then its not rlly useful
maya
maya2 months ago
cuz u already need so much luck in terms of biomes
Torca
Torca2 months ago
Yeah and you need the lightning rod to work and then handle the charged creeper
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
yeah good point i forgot it was just faster 😭
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
if you get trident from tc and it rains could be tech to enchant riptide for fast travel aga
maya
maya2 months ago
u can keep the creeper contained so handling it is not the Biggest concern ever to me as much as Getting it in the first place
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
or reach height limit right
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
can riptide take you to height limit or does snow fuck you?
maya
maya2 months ago
honestly no clue
Torca
Torca2 months ago
I don’t think riptide works well without elytra
Torca
Torca2 months ago
Like I don’t think you can fly with it
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
oh you can hit height limit
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
yeah you cant fly but its basically like an unlimited enderpearl type speed
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
you just boost hella fast over land
Torca
Torca2 months ago
Ah ok I haven’t tried it much before
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
you also can definitely 'fly' if you time it correclty i THINK
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
you just gotta be careful with fall damage
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
yeah its actually pretty easy to fly with riptide 3
Torca
Torca2 months ago
Huh ok, just need to get a trident now aga
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
on my first run i got die to trident with one from a tc 😭
Torca
Torca2 months ago
I think I’ll do an attempt when I get back from class, excited to try but will probably get like 35 lol
marvel
marvel2 months ago
mongey's winging it lol
maya
maya2 months ago(edited)
i swear uve been there in the chat of Every feinberg board attempt
maya
maya2 months ago
lolol
marvel
marvel2 months ago
i'm hyperfixated
marvel
marvel2 months ago
👁️ 👁️
marvel
marvel2 months ago
it's legit so fun to watch
maya
maya2 months ago
it is rlly awesome
maya
maya2 months ago
very reminiscent of aa apparently, lol
maya
maya2 months ago
i havent been in the community long enough for feinbergs AA streams but ive seen the sentiment being echo'd
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
I feel like investing in a fast horse for travel would be good
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i lowkey thing depth stider + dolphin on lead is better than horse
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
slightly diff use cases obv
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
but i feel like you can travel diff climates much faster via ocean
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
mongey might be on good pace rn aga
joey
joey2 months ago
couldn't you lead your horse while leading your dolphin
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
yeah probably actually lol
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
overlap wear pumpkin with searching for an end city because thats the only time wearing a pumpkin has any upsides
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
actually maybe not
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
the stakes are too high atp
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
and then you get instant end city and are pace-locked for 5m
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
😭
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
yeah it was a bad idea
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
If tech was found to get an elytra without end city advancement would that be allowed?
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Because in theory you could blow a hole in the ship with tnt and break the item frame to get an elytra no?
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
No
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Feinberg specifically mentioned that workaround
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Ok
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Idk though if it would be ok for other goals like armor
spaced
spaced2 months ago
With hotv after 8ish trades it should be down to one iron per emerald so you basically don't have to worry
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
Not really in the spirit of the challenge though
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gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
is there any tech to reach end outer islands faster than zeroing dragon
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
i was thinking about pearl boosting but it’s probably capped at certain speed
black - dark blue pfp guy
black - dark blue pfp guy2 months ago
happy ghast
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
He said faster not the slowest method possible
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago
You could build a pearl cannon to launch it to the outer end, but I think it would still be slower than just hitting zero
Threadfinn
Threadfinn2 months ago(edited)
Because of the building time
Torca
Torca2 months ago
so somehow my raid just fully despawned twice... like it just ended without the villagers dying or anything. It might have been because I did it by an outpost which was messing it up. Other than that, I'm just bad and it took me like an hour to kill the dragon
Artnauta
Artnauta2 months ago
didn't fein recently show some glitch tech where you push yourself with a piston underneath the portal and it sends you to the outer islands? It can put you over the void so def. bring pearls.
Artnauta
Artnauta2 months ago
That might be illegal actually idk
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago(edited)
you bypass this by doing any% first route, dont go outer end aga
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
although did it for a run and didnt loveee how it feels it feels pretty shit not having many goals after 30-40 mins but maybe its worth it?
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
but i still think its powerful done right
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
oh yeah, is that allowed?
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
but lowkey would be bad if sh is far away from other goals
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
wait, can’t you just save the pearl with soulsand in portal room and then pull it with fishing rod
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Pearls disappear when you die, there's goals that require you to die
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
there are 3 goals
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
No reason it isn't allowed, it makes it so you can get enchants straight away looting, fortune, depth strider
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
maybe do them before any%
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
cuz theres xp and library
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
i think this might have potential
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
You can try but they're all very unreasonable I think
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
I was looking into
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
yea i was thinking about trying the board
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
A redstone clock that drops an item on the pressure plate and takes advantage of the 5 min despawn time
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
but my normal gaming session is like 2 hours snd then i get too tired
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago(edited)
so idk how it will turn out
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
And if you could somehow have enough items on a dispenser to make it so the items run out at the 2h.45 mark
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
hmmmm
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
i might wanna search for 2h timers
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
There's also 4 goals that you die for, kill warden typically has you die
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
yeah i didnt see that
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
so the timer needs like 5 hoppers 2 pistons droppers and repeaters with redstone
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
my strat might be over
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
is it possible to have spawn near ancient city with polar bears?
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
cus it will be like 3 death goals
joey
joey2 months ago
idk exactly how to load the chunks but this should be an easily variable timer using this strat as long as you can keep the chunk loaded
joey
joey2 months ago
hard to take a good picture form any angle lol but just a wooden pressure plate into a not gate into a dropper/dispenser
joey
joey2 months ago
5 mins per item in the dropper
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
The issue is that there will be a moment where the pressure plate is unpressed right?
joey
joey2 months ago
oh
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
The idea is that the same pressure plate is holding a trapdoor which is doing a stasis pearl
joey
joey2 months ago
i didn't think about the output lol but should be able to fix that quite easily
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Give it a shot I think it could be pretty good
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
You could probably set it up in in the end too
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
found on youtube, but requires a lot of iron
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Yeah that's not ideal lol
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
the pistons in the back is like 1 min timer
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
and dropper works per minute ig
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
At some point it's simply redundant gathering these extra resources prior to doing any% first because thats the exact issue any% first is trying to improve
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
wait
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
what if i throw pearl in the sky before pulling stasis
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
and there will be a bed there so i can set the spawn
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
before tping back
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Huh
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
this is for like last death goal
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Oh I think I see
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
i mean theoretically you can get 3 death goals off spawn
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
I think it's just redundant doing all that though 😭
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
and then do any%
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
yea now i think that its too scuffed
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
And I think doing any% heavily helps in the kill warden caving split
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Because that's when you would typically be mining Ur iron and diamonds
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
I think there should be a way to put 24 items in a dispenser and use the 5m item despawn to make a 2h timer for a stasis though
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Id there's a simple way like that
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
But pearl despawns when you die
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
oh like a double timer
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
So it just doesn't matter
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
i mean
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
how rare is it to have ancient city and polar bear spawn
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Polar bear tends to be like frozen ocean which is low contententalness and ancient cities are extreme high contentalness
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
yeah so its just rng or impossible
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
agar
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
And at that point your resetting for kinda a shit frozen seed
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Where you can't enter and do any% fast
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
And don't have a jungle, swamp, dark oak, pale oak anywhere
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
wait thats true
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago(edited)
okay its just easier to zero in the last 15 minutes then ig
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Well I think it's still. Realistic to do any% first and travel back via nether roof at the end
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Just needs more experimenting
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
But any% first for enchants is just admittedly powerful
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
true
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
looting and fortune could potentially save like 30 mins
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Mhm
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
i mean if theres like 50 obby bastion
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Depth strider + dolphin on lead is very good
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
then any% first is good i think
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
i will try today
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
but will probably do like 10
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Gl aga
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
ty
joey
joey2 months ago
idk what compelled me to try and do redstone, but this is at least a proof of concept of a fairly resource-cheap variable 5min timer
joey
joey2 months ago
i'm sure it could be made smaller and more efficient but core concept is just take the signal under the dropper, check if it is activated for more than a few ticks by anding that signal with that signal a few ticks later (through the repeaters)
joey
joey2 months ago
place the redstone torch under the dropper last and then throw the pearl afterwards
joey
joey2 months ago
both repeaters are at max ticks
joey
joey2 months ago
hang on i'm actually stupid lol, i was doing and into not instead of just nand
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
lol
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
its good actually
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
but the problem with pearl disappearing after death is just sad
joey
joey2 months ago
yeah that's super unfortunate
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
the redstone torch into redstone torch looks funny
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago(edited)
for the problem of it ticking in between items that get dropped couldnt you just use a comparator reading the inventory of the dropper as your output instead?
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
I don't get the benefit of using a timer over a fishing rod because the pearl will still dissapear on death
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
its not like a timer will magically stop that
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
Yeah no there was no benefit it was something I started working on cause I couldn't get fishing rod to work cause I was doing it wrong lol
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
But the issue is just unrelated aga
joey
joey2 months ago
you are absolutely correct lol
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
so i just got a god seed and proceeded to burn all of my stuff in the middle of the run while death resetting
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pinkpuff
pinkpuff2 months ago
In the spirit of feinberg himself 💓
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
the seed was insane and it just makes it more sad
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gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
it was desert temple in the village spawn with blacksmith
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
and lava pool next to it
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
bastion and fort was like 150 blocks from portal
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
and there was looting 2 sword and fortune 1 dia pick in the bastion
gumb_y
gumb_y2 months ago
also i tried to do any% first in the run before that, it took my chud ass like 30 minutes to do, and after like 15 minutes i did die to freezing goal and lost my xp cuz i forgotaga
pinkpuff
pinkpuff2 months ago
Ojhhh thats heartbreaking
Torca
Torca2 months ago
this isn't useful anyway as was already stated but here's a much cheaper design
Torca
Torca2 months ago
you don't even need the one redstone dust if you replace it with a block and move the stasis chamber to the block the dust was on, that just means you need to place the block after throwing your pearl (you can't aim otherwise)

the only reason I had that was because I originally thought I needed a torch there for some reason and I forgot about it
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
fishing rod pearl stasis could be useful for if you find swamp near newmoon night and then just do like backup nether goals while waiting mayb
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
fein using lunge 3 spear rn
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
god damn
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i had a spear + max ench table last run but i just didnt think of enchanting it 😭
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
spamming lunge also uses lots of hunger
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
to eat unique
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Would be even better if attribute swapping was allowed 😔
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
tried in a run, iron lunge 3 spear is most ideal, its not common to get unbreaking on the spear from ench table with lunge, but iron has enough dura, and when it got low i just repaired it for like 3 levels with spare iron 🤷‍♀️
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
pearl + spear is insanely powerful
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
probably would be insane for outer end split
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Is iron spear faster or is food a bottleneck
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i hit a village and had like 3 stacks of bread
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
food wasnt that big of an issue
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i just think anything less than iron would have dura issues and you're not guaranteed unbreaking 3 at all on it
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Ok so feinberg was wrong
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i mean it is if you dont get 3 stacks of bread like a crazy person
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Makes sense
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
and its also a bottleneck in the sense that you're eating it alot
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
it was extremely nice for raid to get to the guys, and extremely nice for cyan sheep going between clusters
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
but you're also good with just oding it with a diamond spear
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Could copper spear work?
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
maybe idk the dura
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Just grab one vein and that enough to repair it the whole run
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
190
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Iron is 250 iirc
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
ah yeah thatd be fine then
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
but like tbh you have the iron anyway
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Yeah but copper spear is slightly faster
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
idk i think the .1 second isnt crazy i get it compounds but you dont use the spear non-stop, you just time it when its needed
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
cause the .1second matters on superflat terrain
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
not so much when you've got hills
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
The thing is there’s no reason not to other than durability
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
well you have iron already is the reason
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
or need a diamond spear already
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Ok
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
i think just utilizing spear in general is worth it
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
the micro about it is less important
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
Yeah material isn’t gonna be the decider in a run
SOOT
SOOT2 months ago
I’ll probably go for iron
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
makes it clean for your bundles too
Rudy
RudyOP2 months ago
so you dont have to carry more than the 4 copper you need anyway