Discord Forum Board

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

it's useful for leather, mushrooms, milk, and +1 unique breed rn, which is not that bad

DasumatoOP2 months ago

True, not as bad as I thought but still could be an interesting goal to overlap with ocean stuff

Fox4 🦊2 months ago

I don't think a goal should ever be "find this biome"

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Fox4 🦊2 months ago

It's way too direction rng dependent

EliteMaster2 months ago

i thought it would be moreso a filtered goal (if its a structureless seed and theres a mushroom biome near spawn)

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Fox4 🦊2 months ago

I still don't think it's that interesting, if you want ocean goals there's already monument goals

Threadfinn2 months ago

I think it's a cool goal, highlights a mechanic almost nobody's done before

Threadfinn2 months ago

It would be really rare though unless mushroom islands were added to the structureless seed pool

Threadfinn2 months ago

I do think it would be cool to have mushroom island seeds occasionally, they're more useful than pale garden at least

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pinkpuff2 months ago

They are very common in this version and can be found with biome parameters so not entirely rng. Ive already had a few seeds where i see a muchroom island off spawn

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sugaarush2 months ago

yea especially when its one of the rarest biomes in the game

sugaarush2 months ago

i dont think the biome has enough things from it tho

sugaarush2 months ago

to make it a whole seed type

Threadfinn2 months ago

I'm pretty sure mushroom islands are about as common as pale garden

Threadfinn2 months ago

Which is a seed type

Threadfinn2 months ago

That has nothing

sugaarush2 months ago

ye fair ig

Threadfinn2 months ago

All you can get in pale garden is resin for 1 goal, or +1 sapling or +1 flower

sugaarush2 months ago

yea

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

mushroom island is kinda easy to find but you generally need a huuge ocean for one to show up

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

since its basically an ocean within an ocean

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

maybe shear any mob could be a goal

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

oh right sheep

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

rip

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Threadfinn2 months ago

Mushroom island is amazing for all the leather armor goals, multiple different effects, X effects at the same time, clear effect, 2 breeds

Threadfinn2 months ago

And I think it's fine on a lot of shipwreck seeds

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

2 breeds?

Threadfinn2 months ago

Cow and mooshroom

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

lmao ig

Threadfinn2 months ago

Cow isn't unique but sometimes there just aren't any in your plains

sugaarush2 months ago

mushroom island is a lot harder to find than pale oak. pale oak almost always spawn in a dark oak forest, and they're only technically "rare" bc they cover a small part of the map

sugaarush2 months ago

theres never enough leather for full leather armor, especially when ur in an ocean (compared to like a plains or savanah) effects is like the only good one but idk

Threadfinn2 months ago

Most mushroom islands have enough for full armor I think

Threadfinn2 months ago

You're more likely to get 24 cows there than in 4x the area of plains

Threadfinn2 months ago

Although idk the exact ratio when considering horses

sugaarush2 months ago

i dont see how there could be 24 cows here lol

sugaarush2 months ago

or even like 10

Threadfinn2 months ago

That's smaller than average

Threadfinn2 months ago

I'd assume you also check at least 1 shipwreck too to maybe get some

Threadfinn2 months ago

Another thing that would be nice about a mushroom seed type is increased chance of large deep ocean, and therefore monuments

Threadfinn2 months ago

This feels more like what i usually find

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

technically 2 flowers and one of them gives you nausea

Threadfinn2 months ago

Are open and closed counted separately?

Threadfinn2 months ago

Didn't know that

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

i don't actually know, but they are different items so hopefully yes

Threadfinn2 months ago

No it would make sense

Threadfinn2 months ago

I forgot it drops as it's current state and isn't always the same

muttonfish2 months ago

I like the idea of a shearing goal a lot

pinkpuff2 months ago

Open makes blindness stew, closed is nausea!

DasumatoOP2 months ago

Yeah I feel like this could def be implemented, maybe not with mooshroom in particular, but they are other mobs that can be sheared, e.g. bogged (prob swamp seed spcific), remove nautilus armor, etc.

Threadfinn2 months ago

You can shear bogged, mooshroom, sheep, snow golem, copper golem. Can shear a sulfur cube with a block. Can shear any passive move equipped with saddle or armor. Can shear any mob attached to a lead.

Threadfinn2 months ago

I feel like it's coolest if it's only those first 5 count that actually change the mob and aren't based on equipment given by the player, but I don't know how you would phrase that.

DasumatoOP2 months ago

Yeah I agree, could be like "Obtain 3 different items shearing a mob"

Threadfinn2 months ago

That might work, since you aren't really obtaining it if you already gave it to them

Threadfinn2 months ago

The only issue is sheep, I feel like each wool counting as it's own makes it boring.

DasumatoOP2 months ago

oh true I didnt think about that

Threadfinn2 months ago

Maybe shear off part of 3 mobs? Since a saddle or lead isn't part of it, but wool or mushrooms are.

aawi2 months ago

I think this one goes under this suggestion or similar implementations https://discord.com/channels/1493030345048719483/1507254461628944395

GracefulBeauty2 months ago(edited)

besides strider with natural saddle

Threadfinn2 months ago

Yeah it would be nice if that could count but not have saddles given by players count

Threadfinn2 months ago

Not sure how to check for that though

SOOT2 months ago

Also bogged

SOOT2 months ago

frey2 months ago

mogged

zyx2 months ago

Bogged

xstevey2 months ago

Enter resine block Enter Find the stupid warped forest

xstevey2 months ago

Incoming new mooshrom island seed type1?!??!

Fox4 🦊2 months ago

Resine block is kind of like kill bogged or parched where you have to wait until night falls to get it

Fox4 🦊2 months ago

And warped/crimson are pretty common when combined together, there's a reason we changed the goals that are just warped/crimson specific

Threadfinn2 months ago

Find all nether biomes is still just find all the nether biomes

Fox4 🦊2 months ago

Ok fair, but nether biomes are way more common than overworld biomes, and also I think that's a pretty bad goal, if it wasn't already in the game I would not want it to get added

Threadfinn2 months ago

I.o the issue is that warped is only 8%, and it isn't filtered for. Pale garden is less than 0.05% of ow I think, but that doesn't matter because it's filtered for.

Threadfinn2 months ago

If shear mooshroom were added it would be filtered, and I think mushroom island is~0.15% of the ow, at least 3x more common than pale garden. Spawning near a pale garden in vanilla is still probably more common, but I think it's fine to add one more rare biome to the filter.

xstevey2 months ago

i lwky find it goofy that we have a specific seed type for a single biome, and that single biome comes with only 2 rare goals (that the players can choose NOT to pick) so you end up just playing a "get lucky with the cardinal direction you pick" match

xstevey2 months ago

but idk if that convo belongs in this channel so ima keep it at that

Threadfinn2 months ago

Yeah like at least mushroom island near spawn means ocean at spawn

Threadfinn2 months ago

Pale Garden spawn means structures are less likely than on a fully random seed

Threadfinn2 months ago

What about "Shear Mushrooms Off a Mob" 99% of the time this means bogged but if you find mushroom island it could work too.

Threadfinn2 months ago

And it would filter for either a swamp or a mushroom island near spawn.

EliteMaster2 months ago

99% of the time its gonna be swamp

sugaarush2 months ago

yea and we already have kill bogged

Threadfinn2 months ago

maybe as a replacement for kill bogged?

Threadfinn2 months ago

Idk people were really against this originally but a mushroom island seed type is so much better than a pale garden seed type, and is more common in vanilla

Threadfinn2 months ago

So I was trying to think of a way to use the mechanic that still allows you to do it on a seed with no structures for 100 miles instead of a plentiful deep ocean seed

blanket addict2 months ago

do you always get bogged in trial chambers

blanket addict2 months ago

I feel like you could maybe have "shear mushrooms off a mob" and not even filter for anything but it'd be kinda inconsistent with kill bogged/stray

GracefulBeauty2 months ago(edited)

it's ~33% chance per tc

mat tlast month

Maybe just a “shear 3 mobs” goal would be interesting, you get sheep and armadillo fairly easy then bogged, mooshroom, or snow golem for the final one, seems like maybe enough variation in the final one that it wouldn’t be so rare but you’d have to be thinking about it still, similar to 4 seeds or breed 6/8

mat tlast month

Oh wait u brush armadillo don’t u nvm lol

mat tlast month

Shear 2 seems less interesting but same idea

SOOTlast month

there's also a copper golem with a poppy on it's head

SOOTlast month

trap a iron golem and copper golem in a hole and chunkload it come back later to get the goal

Threadfinnlast month

https://discord.com/channels/1493030345048719483/1507254461628944395 there was already some discussion on this, the difficult part is making it clear that leads/saddles/armor don't count

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