draw negotiations
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ben_mueller8 messagesstarted Jul 19, 2026, 3:09 PM
ben_mueller8 messagesstarted Jul 19, 2026, 3:09 PMgameplay
ben_muellerOP2 months agodraftout games can be quite long and sometimes both players may not have time to keep playing. but a draw isn't always fair because one player might have built up a significant lead (say 12-10 and the last three goals are very time-consuming).
consequently a spectrum of draws should be added such that the win can be divided up however the players want. instead of the traditional 50/50 draw split, one player could for instance get 70% of the win and the other 30%. the elo change is then calculated accordingly.
the draw button should bring up a draw negotiation menu, which looks like a line that goes from 0 to 100% win share. here players can make draw proposals (by clicking the line) and see the other player’s draw proposal (displayed invertedly on the line). once both players agree on a percentage, the draw goes through.
this way the forfeit button can also be removed. forfeit just becomes the case of the 0% win share draw proposal. it should be implemented as being auto accepted.
the only downside is that it is a bit confusing for new players. the open questions are how to calculate win streaks and forfeit rate under this system. but otherwise it is an improvement that would add a unique selling point to draftout.
consequently a spectrum of draws should be added such that the win can be divided up however the players want. instead of the traditional 50/50 draw split, one player could for instance get 70% of the win and the other 30%. the elo change is then calculated accordingly.
the draw button should bring up a draw negotiation menu, which looks like a line that goes from 0 to 100% win share. here players can make draw proposals (by clicking the line) and see the other player’s draw proposal (displayed invertedly on the line). once both players agree on a percentage, the draw goes through.
this way the forfeit button can also be removed. forfeit just becomes the case of the 0% win share draw proposal. it should be implemented as being auto accepted.
the only downside is that it is a bit confusing for new players. the open questions are how to calculate win streaks and forfeit rate under this system. but otherwise it is an improvement that would add a unique selling point to draftout.
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Lightning2 months ago
full copy paste lol https://discord.com/channels/1056779246728658984/1520165739019894865
awesomeSallad2 months ago
I mean it’s the same guy so it’s chill lol
awesomeSallad2 months ago(edited)
in other news this is just as bad as it was there
ben_muellerOP2 months ago
draftout games are longer and you can actually track who is ahead because there is a score. so I figured it made even more sense here but apparently I was wrong 
awesomeSallad2 months ago
you know what I’ll be more fair in that it’s not as bad as ranked in the regard that there is a more concrete definition of who’s winning, and by how much. However the core concept is still just too complicated and unnecessary
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Lightning2 months ago
yeah, just thought it was funny
Floppymog2 months ago
as someone whos had to spend 40 mins one game on some of the last goals i think this is a sensible idea on paper but it feels like it would be pretty messy in practice trying to negotiate (plus it can just deviate from actually playing the game) . If you dont want late time consuming goals just dont pick them and pray they aren't picked
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