Alternate Build Height Limit Setups

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Jade233 messagesstarted Jul 16, 2026, 4:24 PM

JadeOP2 months ago

I've been wondering if there are possible alternatives to reaching height limit besides building up. My main ideas are with a wind charge launcher or a tnt setup, but I haven't been able to get either to propel the player high enough. I figured both of these could be niche alternative overlap options as trial chambers can provide wind charges and enough dispensers, and desert temples can obviously provide tnt (potentially more than 8 if enough gunpowder is in the chests).
I mainly tested the wind charge setup since it seems more straightforward than tnt in terms of what is possible, but unfortunately even with 8 dispensers facing inward the height gained is only about 180 blocks (also got ~115 with 4 dispensers). When it comes to tnt is also wasn't able to get much more propulsion than 100 blocks, but I'm not as experienced with how that system works so I may be missing some potential.
The way I see it, collecting the materials and building a launcher this way must be faster than just pillaring up if it can get you all the way, but I don't have enough technical knowledge to know if it's even possible to be sent high enough, so I'd love some input from others who can experiment with this. Worst case, 180 blocks is still like half the required distance and building the wind charge setup could be done on a pillar to shave off the latter half of the pillaring time.

Rudy2 months ago(edited)

how are you surviving the blast from the tnt?

Rudy2 months ago

windcharged is theoretically doable i think

JadeOP2 months ago

You know i didnt really consider that part LOL

Rudy2 months ago

lol

JadeOP2 months ago

Totem angle surely

Rudy2 months ago

wr for the goal is using bamboo btw

Rudy2 months ago

but obviously situational

Rudy2 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcfIIZgz5aI sloppy showcase from a month back of the a starting-line for doing height limit as fast as possible

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JadeOP2 months ago

Yeah but that still requires pillaring right? I'm interested if there are faster possibilities to actually gain the height other than elytra

Rudy2 months ago

yeah just thought it was somewhat relevant

JadeOP2 months ago

Fair and its definitely optimal assuming access to bamboo

Rudy2 months ago(edited)

hold on tech: getting a bunch of jungle saplings, bone meal, pealrs, and throwing pearl up and growing the big jungle tree and repeat

JadeOP2 months ago

You would need sooo many sapplings

JadeOP2 months ago

But it is faster so if you happen to have some you could do it i guess

Rudy2 months ago

its tupid its okay

Rudy2 months ago

somewhat alternate but used/known already is just overlapping with nether roof / hot tourist in the nether

Rudy2 months ago

still building up though

Rudy2 months ago

, happy ghast could be tech though!

Rudy2 months ago

takes probably as long to fly up

sam2 months ago

so this only helps for 50-100 blocks, but i did lab pillaring with windcharges (with blocks in offhand). with a good drag click you can get like 7 blocks per wind charge. realistically you'll have like 16 wind charges max but still helps a bit

JadeOP2 months ago

Yeah i just realized my numbers were very wrong because i was just looking at my y value not considering the amount it actually added oops

sam2 months ago

also labbed scaffolding + cushions for 26.3 LOL
you drag click the scaffolding, then if you look straight down while holding cushions you can drag click to gain height
but even if you did stack of wool, it only gives you 40 blocks

sam2 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxIk7tc2hzA

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sam2 months ago(edited)

this setup gets to y420 from 18 tnt, which is obviously more than necessary

JadeOP2 months ago

Yo that is gnarly haha

sam2 months ago

uses spawn invulnerability

Rudy2 months ago

yeah

sam2 months ago

which i think is too short now to use for this

sam2 months ago

in 26.1

Rudy2 months ago

i think it just doesnt exist right

sam2 months ago

it's like a couple of ticks while client loads

Rudy2 months ago

oh interesting

Rudy2 months ago

yeah doubt it then

sam2 months ago

ofc it's just 2 DTs worth of tnt so it would be cool if it was possible

AKI2 months ago

U can also do this without drag clicking just gets less blocks per wind charge

Rudy2 months ago

sssp reborn

Rudy2 months ago

how many chickens do you need for height limit with wind charged potion lol

Rudy2 months ago

like 12 it seems

pinkpuff2 months ago

Can you spam scaffolding to build limit and then like pearl up the tower

Rudy2 months ago

yeah but you kinda get fucked over if your pearl strays too far

Rudy2 months ago

rng

Rudy2 months ago

https://youtu.be/81mFAkNXUmA

Rudy

12 chicken wind charged height limit

sam2 months ago

i think scaffolding can only be hit by pearl from above? im testing rn it's weird

Rudy2 months ago

yeah

Rudy2 months ago

only hitbox is the top you stand on

pinkpuff2 months ago

ah was wondering if that would be an issue too

pinkpuff2 months ago

This is crazy

pinkpuff2 months ago

I didnt even know that was a potion

Rudy2 months ago

its not the worse to make even if you have like brewing ready lol

Rudy2 months ago

and babys suffocate the same as adults so you need 8 chickens

Rudy2 months ago

with leads not the worse

Rudy2 months ago

its just soooo slop but it would be really funny to snipe the goal

pinkpuff2 months ago

Love the concept of height limit being a goal done after going nether+fort and TC

sam2 months ago

wait mbe you can literally just do shield

Fox4 🦊2 months ago

The most viable option imo is twisting vines, bonemeal and pearls

sam2 months ago

for the tnt

Rudy2 months ago

i dont think shield blocks tnt explosions like that?

sam2 months ago

mbe i tested it badly lemme check this again

sam2 months ago

ok im pretty sure shield blocks all of the damage and none of the knockback

Rudy2 months ago

oh wait yeah

Rudy2 months ago

its pretty good

Rudy2 months ago

you just need to make sure all tnt is on 1 side of you

sam2 months ago

ya it'll be below you so

sam2 months ago

i think it's 14 tnt from y70

sam2 months ago

so guaranteed from 2 temples and possible from 1

sam2 months ago

note: if you do extra tnt it will break the shield and kill you

Rudy2 months ago

yeah wait i just broke shield

Rudy2 months ago

thats good for break shield no?

Rudy2 months ago

accidental tech

sam2 months ago

it's fine if shield breaks on the last one

Rudy2 months ago

i got break shield from 9 tnt

Rudy2 months ago

thats temple doable

sam2 months ago(edited)

does not count for the goal sadly

Rudy2 months ago

whaaaaaaat damn

sam2 months ago

ok the theoretical minimum is 10 tnt

sam2 months ago

1 temple

sam2 months ago

testing setups

sam2 months ago

i love #strat-dev and thanks for posting this jade

Coreybirdo2 months ago

I’ve gotten to y230 from a 16 dispenser wind charge setup

sam2 months ago

as in, 16 dispensers?

Coreybirdo2 months ago

Yea

sam2 months ago

the other thing i was curious about was some boat launcher setup

sam2 months ago

in rsg high% they build a more consistent setup that's easier to copy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHvQatuqOQE

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Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

can you not survive a tnt launcher with a god apple?

sam2 months ago(edited)

yes you can actually, but obviously shield is easier to get lol

sam2 months ago

ok i've managed to get height limit with 12 tnt and shield, seeing if i can improve the setup

sam2 months ago

this fs doesn't work btw

nsla2 months ago

is scaffolding faster than building?

Rudy2 months ago

uhhh you just build up on the bamboo

Rudy2 months ago

like not scaffolding

Rudy2 months ago

cause string would suck to get and you can just start buiklding up

Rudy2 months ago

scaffolding on its own is kinda the same since its just climbing speed which limits you

nsla2 months ago

idrc about wr i just meant in general

sam2 months ago

i think i've found a consistent 11 tnt setup

Rudy2 months ago

ohhh ic

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

break a shield would be a fun goal tbh

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

probably just something u farm of creepers tho

Threadfinn2 months ago

Or magma cubes

Threadfinn2 months ago

The giant magma cubes can shred through a shield pretty quickly

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

Oh yeah thats true

Threadfinn2 months ago

I think I'll make a suggestion for that I agree it would be a fun goal

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

Yeah go ahead I was gonna make one but doesnt matter

Patuator2 months ago

I was gonna say this is what I thought would be the best strat too, but it turns out you can't pearl into weeping and twisting vines in 26.1.1.
It's a thing in 1.16 so I guess it got changed in between, shame

Patuator2 months ago(edited)

It's still a decent idea to just climb a twisting vine tower.
It only takes 1 twisting vine and 12 bone blocks worth of bonemeal to reach height limit from surface, that's a bit cleaner than just pillaring with around 260 blocks.

Also, climbing twisting vines seems slightly faster than pillaring.
I climbed 50 blocks of vines in around 20.5 seconds, while it took around 22-23 seconds to pillar 50 blocks.

sam2 months ago(edited)

ok i believe i have a working setup for 10 tnt!

just requires bucket, shield, leaves, and wood

sam2 months ago(edited)

it also only works consistently from ~y74 so you'll need to find slightly elevated terrain

sam2 months ago

ok it doesnt need leaves actually i replaced them with slabs

Threadfinn2 months ago

How quick is the build? 10 tnt is great since that's possible from' most desert temples.

sam2 months ago

maybe 15 seconds ish?

sam2 months ago

going to share a video soon

sam2 months ago

it's a little convoluted and there might be an easier way to do it, but i think it's within a block or two of optimal height you can get from 10 tnt

sam2 months ago

doesn't require timing jumps or anything like that

Rudy2 months ago

Overlapping with star trader for 10 advancements

Patuator2 months ago

TNT launcher is definitely the better strat, but I'll post this anyway.
Build height in 36 seconds using 14 wind charges and 7 pearls. Better execution is prob 30s.

Threadfinn2 months ago

Ok but how do you keep the villager alive

sam2 months ago

this is cool

Rudy2 months ago

Uhhhhh

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

you can pearl into a wind charge?

Patuator2 months ago

Other way around, you can wind charge a thrown pearl to trigger it mid air

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

without pearls you can still wind charge up and then place a block against the vine and repeat

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

but it takes a lot of wind charges and it's slower ofc

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

i wonder if you could quickly place and remove water against the vines while climbing to climb faster

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

cause you swim faster than you climb i'm pretty sure

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

also twisting vines + cushions will be possible in 26.3

sam2 months ago

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

if only there was a 9 tnt setup

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

but yeah thaats cool

sam2 months ago(edited)

if you only have 9, you can do the same setup, but without the top tnt/top row of blocks/trapdoor. but it only works from y105+

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

low tnt gives 7 and high tnt gives 8 anyways, ofc you can loot the chests manually instead

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

you'll probably have gunpowder + sand from the chests

sam2 months ago

hotbar should be accurate counts of what you need

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

yeah that's true but could be worth getting all of them if theres no goal that needs u to blow it up

sam2 months ago(edited)

89% chance of 5+ gunpowder from DT
69% chance of 10+ gunpowder

sam2 months ago(edited)

so, close to guaranteed if you don't need to use one for high/low tnt e.g. in mid game

sam2 months ago

but if you were just going for the quickplay record you could definitely do it off spawn if you just get lucky

sam2 months ago

it's also extremely consistent with how high it goes, if you position correctly while crawling

sam2 months ago

y75 is good enough to give reasonable margin

GracefulBeauty2 months ago(edited)

you'd just need a good reason to lose time in early game looting dt slower for +1 tnt

sam2 months ago

yes if you're going DT first it's basically never worth imo

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

also if you're in a desert you can probably loot a second dt later

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

that is true

sam2 months ago

i think most of the time that i can see a DT off spawn i don't loot it first

sam2 months ago

if you only have 9 tnt you could theoretically just pillar up to y105 but it seems so annoying to build this without terrain so i don't really think that's viable

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

is it possible to boost yourself further with a wind charge the moment the tnt explodes?

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

if you do it tick perfect for sure

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

even if it is, it's probably easier to get more tnt than visit a tc and time the wind charge but still curious

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

well youd need to bring 2 water buckets to make an infinite water source lmao

GracefulBeauty2 months ago

6 buckets overlap

sam2 months ago

just jumping at the right time gets you 5 blocks, let me check on wind charge

sam2 months ago

i was initially worried the setup would require timing a jump but fortunately it doesn't

sam2 months ago

also if someone much smarter than me wants to improve this please do, otherwise might make a resource post

sam2 months ago

i initially thought it might require obsidian before learning waterlogged slabs have 100% blast resistance

sam2 months ago

damn perfectly timed jump + wind charge gets you 43 blocks LMAO

sam2 months ago

so y65 is fine with 9 tnt and 1 wind charge. hard tho

sam2 months ago

tick perfect

purplewormwhat2 months ago

Time to find a timing setup like for portal break

sam2 months ago

ok after a little experimentation it's not terrible to build after pillaring up

sam2 months ago

in which case, this is relevant

sam2 months ago(edited)

for all of these you should probably go 3+ blocks higher to be safe

sam2 months ago

i actually did have this for one of the setups i tested, for getting the 5 blocks from jump

sam2 months ago

you can also use this to get sus sand with only 9 tnt, inspired by luxuryz

sujuxi2 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK2-cdQCTpQ

this setup could be good if you have some windcharges. i dont know how many windcharges are optimal tho.

also you need a slime block which is bad but i couldnt figure out a way that doesnt uses one.

you can replace the powder snow with a cobweb.

maybe its helpful

(btw this windcharge stacking setup wasnt invented by me i saw it on youtube some time ago to shoot fireballs but it works for windcharges aswell)

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windcharge to build limit setup

blanket addict2 months ago

can you do this from inside the trial chamber through the digdown spot

blanket addict2 months ago

no strat reason I just think it'd be so funny for someone to commit to height limit because opponent is in a trial chamber and then get sniped like this

sujuxi2 months ago

Yeah sure

sujuxi2 months ago

Wait i just realised. there are slimes in some trial chambers. So maybe its not that bad that you need slime

JadeOP2 months ago

main obstacle is redstone and powder/cobweb

JadeOP2 months ago

technically possible to get all of those on the way/inside the chamber though so it could happen

JadeOP2 months ago

it will be a beautiful clip when someone gets this all to align plus having the goal on the board alongside tc stuff

closure2 months ago

Surely it's possible to do this without the repeater

sam2 months ago

This is cool

sam2 months ago(edited)

Ok unfortunately after more testing I learned this has a chance to go around the shield and kill you

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

god apple strikes again

sam2 months ago

Ya lol

sam2 months ago

Ok you just need to make sure shield is pointed towards the middle of the block and it's fine - it wont block the damage if tnt is behind you

sam2 months ago

much simpler setup

sam2 months ago

took 30 seconds to get to height limit

sam2 months ago

also made a setup for less than 10 tnt, where you just pillar up. every tnt less is ~35 blocks, to play it safe

sam2 months ago

probably worth it if you have 7 or more tnt

sam2 months ago

only downside of the pillar setup is you need 2 water buckets

closure2 months ago

so on a DT seed, ideally you should check that there's at least 15 gunpowder before doing high tnt

closure2 months ago

or i guess just build up 35 blocks instead

sam2 months ago

yeah i mean if you're going temple first i think you still just do high tnt, and use a tnt for trees

sam2 months ago(edited)

45% chance you have enough after that, but not worth giving up the tempo imo

sam2 months ago

70% chance there's enough after high tnt

closure2 months ago

nah yeah you're right

sam2 months ago

(90% chance with no high tnt), like in midgame

sam2 months ago

but ofc you can just do the pillaring setup if you're 1/2 short, you can often make 2 buckets in midgame anyway

closure2 months ago

you can also do 1 bucket and kelp

sam2 months ago

wait are you /srs

closure2 months ago

lmao i mean it works

sam2 months ago(edited)

i didn't know abt this

closure2 months ago

yeah the kelp will turn flowing water into a source block

Uniquepotatoes2 months ago

Thas how u make water elevators

sam2 months ago

oh i knew that, like for soul sand elevator stuff

closure2 months ago

yeah same idea

closure2 months ago

nah its good

closure2 months ago

no other draftout tech where you need an infinite water source far away from water

sam2 months ago

also bucketless is really easy but you have to have freaky water at y75 somehow

sam2 months ago

if only it did 10 blocks more

sam2 months ago

also seagrass

closure2 months ago

true if you have shears or kill turtle when warm ocean/river only or smth

closure2 months ago

desert spawn prolly trade for shears

sam2 months ago

ok also this works with slabs instead of stairs, cheaper/faster to place

sam2 months ago

stairs fails 2% of the time due to tnt rng, slab fails 0% of the time (across 400 trials)

Threadfinn2 months ago

If you bonemeal any solid block underwater it grows seagrass

Threadfinn2 months ago

So you could use that if you only have enough iron for 1 bucket

sam2 months ago

that is unbelievable

sam2 months ago

minecraft is amazIng

sam2 months ago

wait idk if it works

sam2 months ago

you might still need shears

sam2 months ago(edited)

no we're back it works

sam2 months ago

WTF

sam2 months ago

just same thing as kelp, needs to be on like a full block of water, counting downward flowing water

Threadfinn2 months ago

Yeah just tested and it works. I though it worked but wiki said it couldn't be flowing water so I wasn't sure

Threadfinn2 months ago

But ig downwards flowing water doesn't count as flowing water for that

sam2 months ago

ig so

sam2 months ago

this is unbelievable tech

Threadfinn2 months ago

I saw feinberg do it in a baablu skyblock video

sam2 months ago

notably you get bonemeal from desert temple

sam2 months ago

obv easy to get bonemeal anyway just saying

Threadfinn2 months ago

yeah

sam2 months ago

also saves time on the 10 tnt ground setup, since you don't have to take 10 seconds to grab more water from a river or something

Threadfinn2 months ago

True it makes it easier to build it on a small hill

closure2 months ago

oh yeah now i remember this lmao

sam2 months ago

setup with bonemeal

sam2 months ago

it works so well

sam2 months ago

and bonemeal for the pillar setup

sam2 months ago

i think the bonemeal makes it simpler too probably cuz we can just place the slabs after

sam2 months ago

ok made a resources post with these setups #Reaching height limit with TNT