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7rowllast week

This was done to prevent people force crashing game to gain advantage, while putting you at disadvantage, but still letting you play out the match. We might change it in the future if we have better ways of detecting foul play and punishing people, lol.

kW1stOPlast week

yep

kW1stOPlast week

ye i see why but for now it's strange

kW1stOPlast week

What advantage can a player get from this?

kW1stOPlast week

I have no idea

happykylolast week

I would request to re-think this as soon as possible. I was in a 12-12 game over 1 hour and i was ahead to last goal and game crashed so lost all my items/progress and lost. felt like waste of an hour. I understand trying to not let ppl have an advantage but its very frustrating for players who have random dc

kW1stOPlast week

and also you need to do when you are disconnected you are still playing in the world. And if you do smt advancements it just dont count untill u reconnect

kW1stOPlast week

Also this thing makes IMPOSSIBPLE to play if you are RUSSIAN. Let me explain. In our country we have "ТСПУ". The thing that the government uses to control what you do in the internet. So we HAVE TO play with VPN or smt and it's can't be stable for 100%.

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Tacomonsterlast week(edited)

im not completely sure what youre saying, but how does crashing your game give you an advantage?

Tacomonsterlast week

when one person reconnects do both players reset or only one

Tacomonsterlast week

i assume its only the player that disconnected that gets reset, but doesnt it just make it so a poor connections loses you the game?

Tacomonsterlast week

oh is it ummm being able to open your single player world

Tacomonsterlast week

hmmm

Tacomonsterlast week

wdym autosave

Tacomonsterlast week

i get what youre saying

Tacomonsterlast week

i feel like resetting the world is a bit of a harsh punishment for disconnecting i think it would be best if it just killed you upon reconnecting

kW1stOPlast week

I didnt

kW1stOPlast week(edited)

how if I forced my game to crash I get advantage. explain

Tacomonsterlast week

basically if you die you can instantly crash your game and when you reconnect youd be rolled back like 3 seconds

kW1stOPlast week(edited)

no way

kW1stOPlast week

u sure?

Tacomonsterlast week

well you cant cause it resets the world now

Tacomonsterlast week

but thats what they were saying would happen without it

kW1stOPlast week

disconnect and focred crash is not the same

Feinberglast week

you cant tell the difference from the server side

Feinberglast week(edited)

a bad actor can just unplug their ethernet on purpose

kW1stOPlast week

ok that's make sense

kW1stOPlast week

yeee

kW1stOPlast week

but we need to solve this problem somehow

Feinberglast week

theres no good solution

kW1stOPlast week

lock world from the server side if it's possible

Feinberglast week

if you disconnect in mcsr ranked it resets the world as well

kW1stOPlast week

hell no?

kW1stOPlast week

didn't see it

Feinberglast week

yea it does?

kW1stOPlast week

last time i was disconnected

kW1stOPlast week

i continued playing

Feinberglast week

maybe not if u blip connection but my gf has had world reset multiple times in the past weel to disconnecting

kW1stOPlast week

and reconnected 1 min after

kW1stOPlast week

wdym

Feinberglast week

ranked has world resets when you disconnect for a certain amount of time i know that

Feinberglast week

for the same reason that rowl said above

kW1stOPlast week

ye the reason in make sense

Feinberglast week

maybe if you only disconnect for a short amt of time it doesnt fully register i dont know the specifics at all

kW1stOPlast week

but I think there is a way out

kW1stOPlast week

we can do smt

kW1stOPlast week

for sure

kW1stOPlast week

like this

kW1stOPlast week

server need to remember everything

kW1stOPlast week

about the world

kW1stOPlast week

position

kW1stOPlast week

etc

kW1stOPlast week

inventory

kW1stOPlast week

sounds like a good idea

kW1stOPlast week

plus the first need to do is figure out how to connect without untable fckn vpn

kW1stOPlast week

doesnt it?

eepyLeaflast week

it's just so crushing resetting like an hour into a run, ranked it's less bad because games rarely if ever go on that long

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eepyLeaflast week

i understand why it exists tho :D

eepyLeaflast week

thanks for explaining

eepyLeaflast week

thankfully the one time it happened to me my opponent offered a draw

Rudylast week

Heya; slightly off-topic not sure if it should have a new thread but if were keeping the world resetting the 'Unique Crafts' goals also reset, i think this one shouldnt reset

Rudylast week

like if you're half way through craft 50 unique and you crash theres no reason it should be reset to 0

kW1stOPlast week

ye

kW1stOPlast week(edited)

I dont think there is to0 many data

Rudylast week

oh you might be right yeah hmm

Rudylast week

samew ith like run 1km i guess

Rudylast week

i wonder if those should be tracked by server instead

kW1stOPlast week

yeeeeeeeeeee

kW1stOPlast week

they need to fix connections from every possible location

Rudylast week

'Craft Unique Items' 'Sprint 1km' and 'Wear carved pumpkin 5 mins' are the things i think needa be considered/somehow fixed with this i guess

Rudylast week

so you dont lose progress if you crash on that idk

kW1stOPlast week

yes

kW1stOPlast week

but if we can fix connections

kW1stOPlast week

we are the champions

kW1stOPlast week

this is won't be a that problem as now

thunderzlast week(edited)

Why not if someone disconnect give them a 30 second timer if it runs out you time would keep going

Novinitylast week

couldn't the mod detect if the game has just started vs the player was just disconnected and reconnects in a short period of time without the game closing? i feel in the latter case you could have it reload the original world, and if the game was closed and reopened, then you reset them
in the code it manually disconnects the player from the world, so you could even have the mod save the world first to avoid any potential desyncs
obviously resetting on close still isn't the most desirable for anyone genuinely crashing, but i think atleast giving players who just had a quick connection throttle the chance to still win the game

Revaruxalast week(edited)

ill add that ranked have the same regional connection issue but it doesnt kick you every time you have unstable vpn connection
i guess ranked sends information to client in like small packets and doesnt keep constant connection to server so it doesnt kick you until you havent lost connection completely
unlike this for now draftout kicks you out of the world to menu when you have some unstable connection, so without vpn you will be kicked every 10-20 seconds to menu, or with vpn it at least works but if you have some instability it may kick and reset you in any middle of the match
i think it also may affect some people without regional blocking if they have some unstable connection so its definitely needs to be fixed in some way

Revaruxalast week

for now in my opinion issue is not resetting world itself, but getting kicked because of small connection instability, like reset may work if you unplug ethenet but this shouldnt happen if you have a small loss of packets without losing the entire connection

Petilast week

how do u get advantage when crashing the game?

Duckylast week

the reset when disconnecting is exploitable too, since it respawns all the mobs near spawn. I ran into a situation where i killed golem and cows for iron and leather, used them for goals, and then got disconnected wich allowed me to kill the cows and golem again for different goals

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Zellast week

i dont know if replays are being implemented eventually but if they are it would be relatively easy to catch people who would abuse something like this to not die, no?

maskerslast week

to not die

if you mean 3s rejoin invulnerability its not a thing in latest mc versions anyway

Zellast week

no i think someone mentioned that if they made it so the seed didnt reset upon reconnect it would rollback everything slightly, hence someone could use that to not die

Zellast week

that was the main argument i saw for not changing this

maskerslast week

oh

Zellast week

but i only skimmed the thread so there might of been something else icl

kW1stOPlast week

I can play ranked using zapret only

Revaruxalast week

yea thats what i mean, if ranked solved this it should be done for draftout too

kW1stOPlast week

How it feels to me watch streams but cant play myself

kW1stOPlast week

@Revaruxa did you try it already?

Revaruxalast week

trying rn

Revaruxalast week

it seems to work with zapret

kW1stOPlast week

i need to add it in the list

kW1stOPlast week

?

Revaruxalast week

check dm

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Do not generate new world when you were reconnected