Change win condition for lower elos

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Bomber50 messagesstarted May 22, 2026, 7:47 PM

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BomberOPlast week

I can appreciate that draftout is fun and works really well at a high level, but for players who are not as good it just makes games drag forever

skill issue? yes

but i think a 4x4 board (first to 8? ik its an even number but) would work better, this game was pretty much wrapped at like 30 minutes when i was 10-7, but opponent stopped trying and I just couldn't get the stuff i needed lmao

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Petilast week

I spent like 20 minutes just finding Melon / Tropical fish so its also luck based a bit

Petilast week

but like the 4x4 idea for smaller elos, but if they suddenly go up, they would be suprised and not ready for 5x5 which will prob give a bit advantage to better players

BomberOPlast week

yeah like the last ones there were:

- wander for a geode
- wander for a snow biome (was all savannah)
- wander for another plains village (opponent got pigs late late)
- grind at a village for 20 lvls (what i did)

BomberOPlast week

true, but thats at like coal 1 level and i would slightly like to think i am more competent than that (i am iron 1) (but also you can use the wiki for help which is different ig?)

ryvelinalast week

my last game took 1 hour 55 minutes

ryvelinalast week

at 55 minutes it was 12-9 and then i was stuck for the entire last hour and lost

BomberOPlast week

maybe keep 5x5 but have it so its like 10 to win instead of 13?

BomberOPlast week

like draftout is fun but ultimately its stopping me from queueing knowing that i need to have the next hour set aside to play

tacopizzalast week

Ive had that to it was prsttt close till like 7-7 but then my opponent went nether earlier and it was basically over after 25 min but we ended up playing for like an hour

Slayer 2last week(edited)

idk about making board smaller but only requiring 10 to win or smth could work

Slayer 2last week

cause if board was smaller you could still get really hard ones you have to do

chair :3last week(edited)

maybe have a casual mode for smaller grid size would be good and doable without throwing off how ranked plays

Slayer 2last week

I just read the info and I think casual mode ends after 30 mins so whoever has the most at that time wins i assume

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Slayer 2last week

so casual dosent end in deadlocks anyway

Slayer 2last week

could be wrong tho/ misinterpreted the rules

Dexylast week

maybe having the harder goals be less likely to appear in lower elo? havent really seen all the goals idk if the problem is goal too hard or Too many goals

Dexylast week

ah i see

bunkeredlast week

this is only true because there is no way for ranked to make the game shorter, unlike draftout which has the board size variable

SOOTlast week

after playing quick play I think this is pretty needed, i think lower elos should have a 4x4 board, and if both players go 8-8 a random goal is announced or something for a tie breaker (having it earlier would prob be more fait but less hype) for reference im a em player when it comes to mcsr ranked (not directly correlated with draftout skill but just giving some sort of reference) I got 8 goals in 30 minutes, I feel like this would be the ideal time that a match is finished in competitive mode something like 40-50 mins feels too long, idk maybe its just me

SOOTlast week

although in theory getting goals in competitive would be faster due to drafting, allowing you to choose goals that fit your route better, but I still feel like this is good

BomberOPlast week

just played another match and wanna bring this up again, between us a single achievement had been gotten in the last half hour, each of the tasks are basically just blind searchathons that can't be overlapped really and just take forever, i'm sure it works in higher elos but like

BomberOPlast week

i've spent half an hour looking for pufferfish or a geode

BomberOPlast week

i can not be arsed to do one of those, then have to repeat for 2 more in the off chance my opponent doesnt randomly pick the same as me

BomberOPlast week

the games just take too long

SOOTlast week

if not smaller board time limit at lower elos would be good imo (but I heard they dont want to do that)

BomberOPlast week

i think i'd prefer a first to ten or something, so there's still skill in picking which ones to go for

BomberOPlast week

Change win condition for lower elos

DriftSythelast week

imo just play quickplay if you don't want longer games

DriftSythelast week

the point of ranked is to be competitive

SOOTlast week

it can be competitive without 1 hr long matches for lower skill players

BomberOPlast week

from experience when it hits like 50 minutes the games pretty much wrapped its just busy work for the rest

BomberOPlast week

and its fine in higher elos because the game can be finished quick

SOOTlast week

its like how ranks below emerald dont have bt

DriftSythelast week

also this would increase queue times

BomberOPlast week

do we know if queue times are an issue at the moment

DriftSythelast week

1 seed type is not equivalent to changing the board size imo

DriftSythelast week

idk but it's just a thing it would affect

BomberOPlast week

for me i've always insta queued but idk

SOOTlast week

not rlly?

SOOTlast week

just take the avg of players elo

BomberOPlast week

^ will say i think changing board size is a shit idea, i am more in favour of having the win criteria be 10 spaces instead of 13

SOOTlast week

yeah im fine with that, I just think the games shouldnt be as long

Nindqlast week

We all queueing quickplay until we average 30m

SOOTlast week

was about to get a 33-36 min completion with 12 achievements then my opp ffed

SOOTlast week

wouldve been my first one too

Bompkinlast week

cant get behind it -1

7rowllast week(edited)

The game settings (in general, how game works, including goals, drafting, board size, etc.) will remain the same for all ranks in competitive mode. Our approach to this is, if you arent ready to play competitive or arent having fun playing it, means its not for you. You should be playing quickplay instead. Thats the rules of the gamemode, there is not time limit, so you are going in with an expectation that game may take as long as it takes.

Its also planned to change how random goals work in quickplay, the difficulty of them will depend on your internal elo more.