Optimization mods I think should be whitelisted/allowed

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nsla83 messagesstarted May 22, 2026, 2:05 PM

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nslaOP4 months ago

26.1.1, although a decently optimized version, probably isnt enough for most people to run it at a comfortable FPS. For my computer (5900x + 4070Ti-S) and with these mods i can run the game at a comparable point to 1.16, but with lowering entity distance (X <= 200%) in the overworld.
I get ~240 fps from lithium + sodium, and ~315 with some of these other mods built in. This is while standing still, moving eats your fps like crazy and with the mods i can get ~210 while without the mods i get around ~160 and with waay more stutters.
Although not a substantial difference on my hardware I think it would be much more beneficial to those with lower-ended computers.
https://modrinth.com/mod/scalablelux
https://modrinth.com/mod/ferrite-core
https://modrinth.com/mod/immediatelyfast
https://modrinth.com/mod/badoptimizations
https://modrinth.com/mod/scalablelux
https://modrinth.com/mod/modernfix-mvus
I have not tested or looked further if these change vanilla in a substantial way, nor how much each mod individually contributes to the overall optimization.

maskers4 months ago

badoptimizations is basically useless as far as i know

Tacomonster4 months ago

i bet voxy and distant horizons are gonna be banned

nslaOP4 months ago

yes because you cant view more than 32 chunks in vanilla

Tacomonster4 months ago

mhm

nslaOP4 months ago

also nor do i think those are optimization mods

max4 months ago

https://modrinth.com/mod/zfastnoise
https://modrinth.com/mod/c2me-fabric
these 2 make chunk generation much much better, basically playable for lower-end PCs and i really think they should be whitelisted

Fast Noise - Minecraft Mod

Vanilla Worldgen optimization mod

Concurrent Chunk Management Engine (Fabric) - Minecraft Mod

A Fabric mod designed to improve the chunk performance of Minecraft.

Zintux4 months ago

100%

Zintux4 months ago

https://modrinth.com/mod/ixeris

Ixeris - Minecraft Mod

Buffered raw input and threaded event polling

~justin4 months ago(edited)

https://github.com/drouarb/nvidium nvidium is known to be effective

GitHub - drouarb/nvidium: Fast minecraft rendering backend for sodi...

Fast minecraft rendering backend for sodium (nvidia only) - drouarb/nvidium

~justin4 months ago(edited)

scalablelux is all of the downsides of starlight (minor lighting & generation changes) with none of the upsides (1000x performance improvement), I'm not sure why it's desirable

~justin4 months ago

but running away from src's mod policy is a good thing, probably won't hurt to allow

~justin4 months ago(edited)

I really like ixeris, fastnoise is modern noisium. immdiatelyfast and ferrite-core should probably just be legalized. c2me and modernfix are the sketchiest to me, but the general modding community is fine with them I think.

Zintux4 months ago

With latest sodium not as much

Zintux4 months ago

Its like +20% fps on 32 rd and -10% on lower than 16 rd

Zintux4 months ago

Gpu dependent, makes e raying not useless as it became in 26.1, lets you set 32+ rd

Zintux4 months ago

About render distance, c2me unlocks it too idk if configs can be locked

Zintux4 months ago

Its essential when you're using beta version c2me which lets you generate chunks on gpu because you're gonna be capped at some point without it, in regular uses its like 5% boost i believe

maskers4 months ago

is it still the case that nvidium removes fog

maskers4 months ago

oh this also sounds like it definitely shouldn't be allowed then

Zintux4 months ago(edited)

Less nether and dragon fog was fixed in 1.21.6 and above

Zintux4 months ago

The thing you couldnt change

Zintux4 months ago(edited)

But you can disable entire fog with 1 button in settings once again

~justin4 months ago

oh that's unfortunate, I was under the impression it was less all that

Iksinski4 months ago

It needs to be done because rn the game is unplayable on lower tier machines. C2M doesn't introduce non vanilla features neither does fast noise.

Iksinski4 months ago

For context I got an I5 3330 and a GTX1650Ti, without those mods on 16rd 500% ed warmed up graal I still experience 1% drops to like 3 fps - even tho on average the game runs in ~100fps. 32rd is not an option for me, I'm getting max 15fps out of that.

Zintux4 months ago

Does graal do something compared to adoptium? Just curious

Iksinski4 months ago

In theory better JIT, reduced ram usage, beter GC

NADDY3 months ago

hello we need optimisation mods please its so hot in my room and if my pc was 1 degree cooler i would be able to play more draftout

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jes3 months ago

yes dear god

jes3 months ago

this post

jes3 months ago

this one right here

jes3 months ago

i think modernfix does modify some entity ai/logic though

jes3 months ago

iirc

jes3 months ago

it's been a while i could be wrong

jes3 months ago

this is significantly better than c2me

jes3 months ago

literally anything is better than c2me

jes3 months ago

if only noisium had clientside use

jes3 months ago

oh nvm

jes3 months ago

i didn't know this existed

jes3 months ago

i use noisiumforked on servers i run so i thought it didn't have a clientside fork ignor me

jes3 months ago

ok anyways all in all my opinion is

fastnoise over c2me

ferritecore

immediatelyfast

modernfix

lithium (but idk what it does to vanilla behaviors)

maskers3 months ago

lithium is allowed for speedrunning which is the highest vanilla parity standard i know so im sure it's fine for draftout

marvel3 months ago

my PC is average, would love optimization

~justin3 months ago

ixeris breaks toolscreen sensitivity modification, probably because it uses GetRawInputBuffer, but that might be fixable

nslaOP3 months ago

i meeeaaann u dont rlly need toolscreen for draftout

nslaOP3 months ago

ig for thin

jes3 months ago(edited)

u don't "need" any macros/resizing lol

jes3 months ago

like realistically

Zintux3 months ago

you compare client side mod with a server side mod? they have different purpose

Zintux3 months ago

fastnoise fills the optimization gap left after c2me which does the most of chunk generation boost, c2me dev helped with coding it too, why would you not use both?

Zintux3 months ago

without any explanation it just seems that you're biased towards c2me

noura 🜛3 months ago

i've had c2me crash modpacks more often than it helped tbh

jes3 months ago

c2me is more unstable than anything, also used in conjunction with noisium/forks the difference is negligible

jes3 months ago

it's also incompatible with some essentially vital mods

jes3 months ago

idk i didn't explain cus no one asked me to lmao

jes3 months ago

also ???? nvidium is clearly not server side if justin was posting it in a forum thread discussing client side optimizations

jes3 months ago

c2me is also not a server side mod either lol it can be used on client or server

Zintux3 months ago

Zintux3 months ago

can i know what unstable means exactly? have been using it for 400h+ in survival with other optimization mods without any related crashes or weird generation

Zintux3 months ago

noisium is 3% boost that never was proven it cant be nearly as performant

Zintux3 months ago

for example?

Feinberg3 months ago

lets just have draftout update to 26.2 and then we can all use vulkan

Feinberg3 months ago

and then the problem is solved

Feinberg3 months ago

if ur not on a nvidia gpu unlucky i guess

nslaOP3 months ago

actually 26.3 because abandoned camps are super interesting

jes3 months ago

this part i was wrong about, i remember the c2me modrinth page having an incompatibilities section but upon looking earlier it's no longer there so

jes3 months ago

also it feels like you are not having this conversation in good faith to actually learn about the flaws with the mod and you are just trying to counter me lol

jes3 months ago

c2me does not affect vanilla generation so weird generation wouldn't be happening, what i meant was the consistent crashes either on startup or midplay

jes3 months ago

just idk from my experience

jes3 months ago

and i have a 4060 i7

jes3 months ago

it is a very sensitive mod that either works or doesn't even if it usually has a simple fix but i feel like you can say that about any mod lol

spaced2 months ago

Fast noise is only really effective when used in conjunction with c2me, which is the configuration literally shown on its modrinth page

spaced2 months ago

I've only experienced c2me crashes when using alternative worldgen engines or gpu acceleration and never with vanilla or datapacks

Iksinski2 months ago(edited)

Vulkan lowk would've fixed 90% of the issues. Thus said I still believe there is room for allowing c2me, or an onther mod of this cslibre. Consistency in generation and dtability would need to be thoroughly tested beforehand, but in my eyes it makes 26+ feel closer to 1.16 in terms of responsiveness

jes2 months ago

i've never used fast noise so i wasn't aware

nslaOP2 months ago

reminder to uninstall toolscreen since for me that ate a lot of fps and its basically useless in draftout now

nslaOP2 months ago

Not to say that these mods shouldn’t be looked into

jes2 months ago

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245429965240008805/1532967764782874795/bounce.gif

jes2 months ago

can we maybe consider this

jes2 months ago

while sodium is great it does not fix every issue even with vulkan